• ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    16 days ago

    Faceid sucks if you have any kind of mask. if you are nearsighted and tend to hold the phone closer than the camera expects it flat out doesn’t work. It’s slower than touchid. It was absolutely stupid for them to completely remove the fingerprint sensor and it’s stupid that they added a new button that’s touch sensitive but somehow isn’t a fingerprint reader.

    It also absolutely requires additional hardware. the truedepth camera system, which is actually a series of lasers and sensors:

    but tbf it’s thanks to that hardware that we have vtubers so that worked out. love me some korone

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      16 days ago

      FaceID has had the ability to register while wearing a mask for a while now (although it came a bit too late as by the time it came out most places had got rid of mandatory mask requirements)

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        16 days ago

        Faceid with mask relies even further on id of eye region so if you wear glasses, especially thick ones that tend to distort light, it sucks.

        Same thing if you use the phone for virtual avatar tracking/vtuber stuff. If you wear glasses, especially thick ones, you have to play with the eye tracking sensitivity and usually turn it way down or it will think your eyes are closed most of the time.

        From what I’ve read online it seems people who don’t wear glasses also have trouble but it’s hard to say whether that’s genuinely a defect, user error, configuration issue, etc as literally any feature change made by any tech company will have a bunch of threads with people griping about how it sucks tbf.

        Also there’s the inherent stupidity that they made a touch less unlock to replace fingerprinting that is slower and still requires you to touch the phone to unlock it, except now you have to touch it in a more obtrusive way (swipe up). iphone 8 you could literally pick up the phone by the home button and it was almost guaranteed to be unlocked by the time you brought it to your face

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          12 days ago

          This is not my experience. None of it.

          I suspect you’re using a few cases of bad experiences and applying it to all of the technology.

          Either that or you’re criticizing Face ID from multiple generations ago.

          It works.

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            12 days ago

            Iphone 16, regularly happens, doesn’t work reliably for users with high myopia. I am not the only one, you will find other similar complaints. Just because it works for you doesn’t mean it works for everyone?

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              12 days ago

              You’ve been told by multiple people that they don’t have that bad experience.

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                12 days ago

                Okay? I’m not saying it never works for anyone, I’m saying for a subset of users with certain conditions it does not work well. If you are a person who doesn’t wear glasses or has glasses that aren’t extremely high index, don’t have strabismus/eye alignment issues then great for you, I’m so happy that you get a phone that works I guess?

                But I’m telling you that it doesn’t work for me and there are reports of people with the same issues:

                https://www.reddit.com/r/applehelp/comments/mozq7z/my_face_id_suddenly_wont_work_with_my_glasses_on/

                https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/7bgs6g/faceid_fails_due_to_lazy_eye/ (old but the next two are the same issue from last year)

                https://discussions.apple.com/thread/252296478?sortBy=rank

                https://discussions.apple.com/thread/255864129?sortBy=rank

                https://discussions.apple.com/thread/255562829?sortBy=rank

                https://discussions.apple.com/thread/255981605?answerId=261208009022&sortBy=rank#261208009022

                (Note the similar questions on apple boards).

                Now you’ve been told that it doesn’t work by multiple people (or do they not count because they’re not here to defend themselves). You sound like a shithead software developer who is convinced disabled people don’t exist so they don’t have to do the extra work of covering for edge cases. That is honestly probably what’s going on here, and could easily be fixed by just putting touchid in the new button to eschew faceid entirely for people that it works poorly for.

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                  12 days ago

                  Yeah, I figured you’d end up angrily transposing someone else onto me to attack that caricature. Seems you just want to find a reason to shit on this tech so you can prop up Android in a follow-on statement.

                  If that’s the case, I really think you should make the switch.

                  The mass users of iPhones have a better experience away from touchID. I think you’re forgetting how finicky it was around moisture and general wonkiness if the finger wasn’t placed in an ideal position.

                  FaceID is better than it in every way.

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                    12 days ago

                    I have an iphone 16 as mentioned, regularly happens. Admittedly was worse on the iphone x I had before this, so they did something to improve it. Android sucks too you fuckin fanboy trash. No phone is truly unlocked anymore.

                    “The mass users”. well fuck anyone who is different or disabled then. If it works for me then it doesn’t matter! And if anyone disagrees they must be a troll because apple can do no wrong.

                    I still have devices with touch sensors including a 2019 macbook running arch. The touch id on there works great and is faster than face id on an iphone 6 years newer, doesn’t require a gesture, and doesn’t complain about my reflective glasses or misaligned eyes