• john89@lemmy.ca
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    11 hours ago

    Same goes for US companies.

    Have we learned nothing from Snowden?

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      Yeah it is similar, but not the same (at least not yet).

      China is a one-party state, and the government has control over private enterprise. If you are a Chinese company, the PRC ultimately has control of it, and that means the Chinese military has access to anything you have access to, if they want it.

      This is on a different level than anything Snowden released.

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        This is on a different level than anything Snowden released.

        Snowden released the fact that the major internet companies in the US literally have full time CIA staff and locked rooms with servers

        Why is this on a different level? Is it because they’re ASIANS?

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          33 minutes ago

          One government is actively committing genocide against subsets of their population I’d say it’s a pretty big fucking difference.

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          That Snowden releasing the facts and it being brought up in courts, state congress, and federal congress as well as national news all revolved around it being illegal in the USA.

          In the PRC it’s only illegal to talk about it.

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            That Snowden releasing the facts and it being brought up in courts, state congress, and federal congress as well as national news all revolved around it being illegal in the USA.

            Did it stop?

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          The long and short of it is even leftie Americans have internalised American exceptionalism, even if they aren’t cognisant of it. And the right are, well… Racist and don’t want to admit it.

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        3 hours ago

        China is a one-party state I wish you could realise how hilarious it is to read someone comparing the US and China on their number of political parties…

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          3 hours ago

          Oh? So you are saying that there are no functional difference between a federation of 50 states, each with individual (somewhat independent) local and state governments, and the authoritarian CCP?

          When I say “China is a one-party state,” I’m not referring to political parties as we would understand them in the US (Democrat/Republican). I am referring to the actual structure of the government.

          You might want to maybe educate yourself on what a “one-party state” means in this context before trying to make snarky comments.

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          Yeah, if only in either of those two countries people were seeing measurable improvements in their lives, approved of their government, and had hope for the future…