Video Games Europe, a trade association that represents a bunch of major game publishers, have issued a statement pushing back against Stop Killing Games.
No, you don’t own the software in your car. The companies who disabled your car do, and by acquiring that car, you are subject to their whims. Because by signing that contract when buying that car, I bet you didn’t amend it to make you owner of that software.
Instead of continuing to maintain a car-centric culture with software that we don’t own or control, we could incorporate more walking and biking infrastructure, and better more reliable public transit options.
Don’t settle for one thing just because that’s what you know and has been in existence most of your life. Find and build better options.
You didn’t answer my question. Should it be legal?
Swap out “car” with “any electronic device of your choice”. Should Intel/AMD be legally allowed to remove the CPU firmware on a whim making your processor a worthless pile of sand? Should your phone be allowed to be bricked by software updates because the manufacturer wants you to purchase a new model? Should fucking Casio be allowed to remotely disable your F-91 W digital watch because it contains firmware you do not own?
It is legal, therefore that’s the hurdle we need to get over. If you don’t want it to be legal, fight to make it illegal, or don’t use/buy the product.
But people pre-order video games at record numbers despite everyone with a brain saying that they shouldn’t, so they’re SOL either way.
Trying to side-step copyright isn’t going to get you what you want. You’re fighting an uphill battle with fewer resources.
You keep ignoring the question. The question is not “is it legal” but “should it be legal”.
Because petitions are about changing laws. They are the process through which the population can ask for a law change.
I have no idea why you keep bringing up copyright. Copyright is not a magical “get out of jail free” card that excempts you from following the law. It literally has nothing to do with the discussion at hand, same as whether this is legal right now or not. Your comments are constantly offtopic.
Apart from maybe you, everyone knows that it’s currently legal. Why do you so urgently want to discuss it?
But ok, let’s catch you up to speed. It is currently legal. Everyone knows that. Do you want me to repeat it?
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With that out of the way, answer the question or go away.
It has nothing to do with hypotheticals but with goals. Do you do the same when you negotiate for your salary?
“Do you want a raise?” - “No, I don’t deal in hypotheticals. Understand how much I earn.” - “Ok, no raise for you.”
And thus is the issue.
No, you don’t own the software in your car. The companies who disabled your car do, and by acquiring that car, you are subject to their whims. Because by signing that contract when buying that car, I bet you didn’t amend it to make you owner of that software.
Instead of continuing to maintain a car-centric culture with software that we don’t own or control, we could incorporate more walking and biking infrastructure, and better more reliable public transit options.
Don’t settle for one thing just because that’s what you know and has been in existence most of your life. Find and build better options.
You didn’t answer my question. Should it be legal?
Swap out “car” with “any electronic device of your choice”. Should Intel/AMD be legally allowed to remove the CPU firmware on a whim making your processor a worthless pile of sand? Should your phone be allowed to be bricked by software updates because the manufacturer wants you to purchase a new model? Should fucking Casio be allowed to remotely disable your F-91 W digital watch because it contains firmware you do not own?
It is legal, therefore that’s the hurdle we need to get over. If you don’t want it to be legal, fight to make it illegal, or don’t use/buy the product.
But people pre-order video games at record numbers despite everyone with a brain saying that they shouldn’t, so they’re SOL either way.
Trying to side-step copyright isn’t going to get you what you want. You’re fighting an uphill battle with fewer resources.
Don’t forget the whole discussion started about a movement to change the law. That’s what SKG is, thats what Videogames Europe is scared of.
We have a chance to change the law here.
You keep ignoring the question. The question is not “is it legal” but “should it be legal”.
Because petitions are about changing laws. They are the process through which the population can ask for a law change.
I have no idea why you keep bringing up copyright. Copyright is not a magical “get out of jail free” card that excempts you from following the law. It literally has nothing to do with the discussion at hand, same as whether this is legal right now or not. Your comments are constantly offtopic.
Because the question ignores reality. I’m not going to bathe in hypotheticals.
So I’m going to ignore your question, since it’s pointless.
Want to make it not legal? Understand that it’s currently legal, and go from there.
Apart from maybe you, everyone knows that it’s currently legal. Why do you so urgently want to discuss it?
But ok, let’s catch you up to speed. It is currently legal. Everyone knows that. Do you want me to repeat it?
It is currently legal. Everyone knows that. It is currently legal. Everyone knows that. It is currently legal. Everyone knows that. It is currently legal. Everyone knows that. It is currently legal. Everyone knows that. It is currently legal. Everyone knows that. It is currently legal. Everyone knows that. It is currently legal. Everyone knows that. It is currently legal. Everyone knows that. It is currently legal. Everyone knows that. It is currently legal. Everyone knows that. It is currently legal. Everyone knows that. It is currently legal. Everyone knows that. It is currently legal. Everyone knows that. It is currently legal. Everyone knows that. It is currently legal. Everyone knows that. It is currently legal. Everyone knows that. It is currently legal. Everyone knows that. It is currently legal. Everyone knows that. It is currently legal. Everyone knows that. It is currently legal. Everyone knows that. It is currently legal. Everyone knows that. It is currently legal. Everyone knows that. It is currently legal. Everyone knows that. It is currently legal. Everyone knows that. It is currently legal. Everyone knows that. It is currently legal. Everyone knows that. It is currently legal. Everyone knows that. It is currently legal. Everyone knows that. It is currently legal. Everyone knows that. It is currently legal. Everyone knows that.
With that out of the way, answer the question or go away.
It has nothing to do with hypotheticals but with goals. Do you do the same when you negotiate for your salary?
“Do you want a raise?” - “No, I don’t deal in hypotheticals. Understand how much I earn.” - “Ok, no raise for you.”