Not actually cancelled but “back to the drawing board”. It’s weird how 4 or 5 years between entries actually feels short these days.

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    In my opinion, the problems in Strive are nothing a new GG would fix better than patching Strive itself.

    I think they had a good idea with Strive, as in casualize GG to make it more appealing to the masses. Yes, at the top, the game has balancing issues; but numbers can easily be tweaked. The game lacks a proper ranked mode, but so far, none of their games had one AFAIK so a new game wouldn’t necessarily fix that either (ranked is announced for Strive though). The only thing I see a new game improve is new singleplayer content.

    The game had a relative peak last year (second only to the original release) when Dizzy was released – almost double the players compared to the Baiken release… while the player baseline is relatively constant, it seems the peaks are growing. Why go for a new game when you can actually build a playerbase with the current one?

    I see some videos of players discovering Strive right now (almost surreal considering the game is four years old now…) and nobody is claiming about age issues with this game, as in bad netcode, performance, graphics or whatever. In fact, most people say that the game’s presentation is very good and that the fights are fun. There’s no need to crank out a new game for the sake of it when the teams are busy with other projects anyways, like Marvel Tokon, Hunter X Hunter and whatever.

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    It’s weird how 4 or 5 years between entries actually feels

    Hmm… TBF, Strive went on way longer than anyone would’ve thought when it was announced… I’m pretty sure even ArcSys weren’t ready for how popular it ended up being seeing it’s the first time they broke their 25 character cap in GG… who even knows when it’ll end? They may end up releasing one or two characters after this season ends—Jam, for example, hasn’t made it in yet.

    I’ll be watching from afar given the direction this series is going, but it’ll certainly be interesting to see where they take it from here seeing every major GG release broke new grounds one way or another.

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    21 hours ago

    Aren’t they busy making that Marvel game? It looked very much like Guilty Gear but with different characters.

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      I’m sure Marvel Tokon started as a fork of the code from Strive, but ArcSys has always been a multi project studio.

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      Iirc, Tokon was their super secret project they had been hinting at for the past ~10 years. This result is likely more cuz Strive wasn’t supposed to live for 6 seasons and a movie, but here we are.

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        I’d be extremely surprised if Sony reached out to ArcSys to develop Tokon before Strive’s release.

        I’m assuming they probably did right after Strive’s release and Tokon has been in the works for ~4 years. 10 would be crazy foresight from Sony and Marvel…

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          So you really believe that the executives at Sony and Marvel, the international multimedia conglomerate known for their 15+ year long term carefully planned movie universe, was able to draft up a contract and approve a decision that allowed another third party company from a completely different cultural background who has never worked with Sony or these characters before to have free reign over their most profitable license? And also that company was able to have brand new art designs complete with fully functional 3D models in addition to passing a global, multi-corporation approval process?

          I don’t believe it. 10 years of forsight is the most basic and standard approach for these guys. The current Marvel empire was founded on planning ahead.

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            I’m sure they planned 10 years ahead for that dogshit Avengers game and Kevin Feige been a Testament main since 2013, yes 😂

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            These things do take time, but not an entire decade. A decade ago, Marvel was still in bed with Capcom, and ArcSys was not yet enough of a household name to be able to negotiate something like this.

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            The earliest this project could have started was 2018, after they made Dragon Ball FighterZ. Before that, ArcSys was on no one’s radar. The code that Tokon is definitely, without a shadow of a doubt built on debuted in Strive in beta form approximately 1 year ago, meaning that the project was probably not in ArcSys’ hands until after Strive launched, in 2021, at the absolute earliest. Sony had limited partnership arrangements with ArcSys at this point already, with PlayStation themed color palettes for characters in the game. But 2021 is also still likely to be too early, because Dragon Ball was still getting considerable attention, and GranBlue had just launched fresh into a world where it needed to be reworked for rollback immediately, because the market demanded it, eventually resulting in GranBlue Fantasy Versus Rising. So my best bet is that it started development in 2022.

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              To add to this: Plus R was released on Steam in May 2015, and Xrd in December later that year.

              So 10 years ago ArcSys were so niche, they barely had any presence outside of Arcades and PlayStation.

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    At this point just cancel everything! Why even make music, movies, games anyway? Just cancel it all and write it off for a sweet tax break! Ultimately I no longer care, I’m so done with Capitalism… I don’t purchase anything other than food nowadays. I’m just waiting to die; Fuck this stupid existence built on money, greed and hate.

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      This sounds more like they cancelled a prototype that wasn’t coming together and they’re starting over, not just throwing the game out to cut costs.