• Tinidril@midwest.social
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    1 day ago

    Except that Trump is currently trying to dismantle Voice of America" and other propaganda machines around the globe.

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      5 hours ago

      yeah i guess trump represents a greater shift towards inward politics. not interfering with the rest of the world so much, just doing internal stuff.

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      VoA is competing with the private sector propaganda wing.

      This is just American Libertarianism taken to its logical conclusion. The mistake the Communists made was thinking Pravda didn’t need to turn an enormous profit.

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      It’s ok when he does it. There is no such thing as a Republican who is able to be shamed by hypocrisy. It’s their super power.

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          Oh I forgot the Blue MAGA mantra: “anything the opposition does is automatically bad”
          When they say water is wet you have to deny it.
          Really you all deserve Trump

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              I guess there was a miss-understanding.

              What I meant was this:

              He has either control over content that is published by an entity (like e.g. a network) or he dismantles it.

              Or do you disagree to that too?

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        Wrong. It opposed Naziism and Soviet Union misinformation. Since then it’s been a standard journalism outlet that, by law, could not be dictated by US politicians.

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          Thanks CIA operative, it is no secret it has always been a propaganda outlet from your CIA bosses trying to stir up shit in countries they don’t control.
          And the US has never been against nazis, supported them plenty of times before during and after WW2.

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      While being the biggest pusher of propaganda in US history.

      And VOA was only “propaganda” when you consider objective information to be “propaganda”, like dumbfuck Trumpers do.

      Since 1976 the Charter and later the 1994 International Broadcasting Act legally forbid government officials from dictating content. Don’t worry about facts, though.

      Trump himself tried to make it a propaganda outlet, doing the exact opposite of what you credit him for. He put Michael Pack in charge who sidelined editors, froze visas for foreign reporters and scrapped long‑standing “fire‑wall” rules that protect editorial independence.

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        And VOA was only “propaganda” when you consider objective information to be “propaganda”, like dumbfuck Trumpers do.

        the thing is that you can deliver heavily skewed pictures with information that is objectively true. consider the following example:

        it makes it appear as if AOC is pro-genocide

        yet when you actually have more context, you know that AOC is actively anti-genocide, as discussed here. (in the comments)

        so, delivering objectively true information can result in heavily skewed images, due to non-proportionality of information, i.e. some details are exaggerated, others are under-reported. and some journals have a tendency to under-report on specific things while over-reporting on others. so it’s still possible to lie with objective information, i.e. create images that are not true because they’re out of their actual proportion.

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        LOL ‘objective propaganda’
        The US regime lies constantly.
        And especially during the ilegal Iraq invasion.
        They placed items in the news without telling the public they were produced by the US regime armed forces.
        It’s not difficult to know unless you deliberately ignore the obvious truth to fit your agenda.
        So you are a liar, nobody can be this naive or dumb.
        https://scholar.law.colorado.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2248&context=faculty-articles

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        The word “propaganda” is tricky. It has connotations of being lies, but that isn’t always or even usually the case. Objectively true information can literally be propaganda. The mission of the VoA is to spread American propaganda. That’s why it’s funded. That can be truths that foreign governments want to suppress, it can be spin, or it can be lies. VoA is generally pretty truthful, especially compared to the privately run domestic versions like cable news outlets.

        Government officials don’t need to dictate content. As you pointed out, content can be controlled by who is appointed to manage the content. They know the mission.