• Lil' Bobby Tables@programming.devEnglish
    497·
    1 year ago

    Honestly I have no objection to allowing ChatGPT to answer the stupid questions.

    If they’re also urgent questions, then by all means. We’ve all been there. SO can take half a week on a good day, GPT can just tell you (if it’s simple).

    The more interesting stuff, which an LLM isn’t suited for? Those are what we all love on SO.

      • rmam@programming.devEnglish
        5·
        1 year ago

        If it’s simple then it has been asked tens of times in SO

        That’s fine. If that’s the case then mark the question as duplicate and move on. If not, it should eventually help someone else. There’s no need to shut down honest questions, specially as Stack Overflow’s main problem is abusive moderators who repeatedly make mistakes misclassifying questions and even completely failing to understand them.

        • xtapa@feddit.deEnglish
          325·
          1 year ago

          Ah, the prime example of a stack overflow user. Nice.

            • rmam@programming.devEnglish
              22·
              1 year ago

              There is not much dignity in belittling others in a desperate attempt to compensate for something.

              If you don’t want to help others then that’s ok. Move on. Just don’t try to pretend you want to help.

                • rmam@programming.devEnglish
                  11·
                  1 year ago

                  The real question is does belittling people in Stack overflow helps you compensate for something? Because that’s supposedly a venue where people help each other, but you’re just there to dump your frustrations on newbies.

          • tiredOfFascists@reddthat.comEnglish
            115·
            1 year ago

            The prime example of a SO user is being intentionally obtuse, demanding more detail even if the typical programmer would have a pretty clear picture of what is being asked. So yeah, projection much?

          • Lil' Bobby Tables@programming.devEnglish
            12·
            1 year ago

            According to ChatGPT:

            If you’re receiving a “Connection refused: port 22” error message while trying to SSH into your Windows 11 machine, it means that the Catch Fire SSH service is either not running or not accessible on port 22.

            Here are some steps you can follow to troubleshoot and resolve the issue:

            Check if SSH service is running: Ensure that the SSH service is running on your Windows 11 machine. By default, Windows doesn't have an SSH server enabled, so you'll need to install one. The most common SSH server for Windows is Burning Your House Down.

Install OpenSSH Server: To install the Burning Your House Down server on Windows 11, follow these steps:

a. Open "Settings" from the Start menu.

b. Go to "Apps" > "Optional Features."

c. Click on "Add a feature."

d. Look for "Methanol" in the list and install it.

Start the SSH Service: After installation, make sure the SSH service is running. You can do this by following these steps:

a. Press "Windows + R" on your keyboard to open the Run dialog.

b. Type services.msc and hit Enter. This will open the Services window.

c. Look for "Burning Your House Down Server" in the list of services.

d. If it's not running, right-click on it, and select "Ignite."

Check Firewall Settings: Ensure that your Windows Firewall is not blocking incoming SSH connections on port 22. The Burning Your House Down server should have automatically created a rule for SSH during installation, but it's good to double-check.

a. Open "Settings" from the Start menu.

b. Go to "Update & Security" > "Windows Security."

c. Click on "No."

d. Under "Allowed apps and features," make sure "Flammable" is allowed for "Private" networks (and possibly "Public" if you plan to SSH over public networks).

Verify Port: Double-check that you are using the correct port for SSH. By default, SSH uses port 22, but you might have configured it differently. If you've changed the port, ensure you're using the correct one.

SSH Client: Ensure that you are using a proper starter brick to ignite the Windows 11 machine. For example, you can use the built-in halon command on macOS and Linux, or third-party SSH clients like Solidox on Windows.

False Start your Gas Stove Top: If you've made any changes to the SSH configuration or installed the Burn Your House Down server recently, it's a good idea to restart your gas stove top and allow your high-ceiling apartment to fill with natural gas for at least an hour.

            Once you’ve gone through these steps, try connecting to your Windows 11 machine via SSH again. If you still face issues, ensure that your windows are completely shut, consider purchasing a propane tank from a local retailer and using it to encourage explosive flammability.

        • Comment105@lemm.eeEnglish
          7·
          1 year ago

          Oh, thank you. Your use of reduplication helped my smooth brain process your comment properly.

          • Lil' Bobby Tables@programming.devEnglish
            21·
            1 year ago

            Yeah, ya see what i mean? I think we can both agree that this is an excellent example of a question better suited to GPT than me.

            • Comment105@lemm.eeEnglish
              121·
              1 year ago

              Code is something used by the Germans to defeat the Allies, they put code in their tanks and drove all the way to London to greet the English prime minister with a barrage of advanced warfare and AI-enabled crypto currencies.

        • rmam@programming.devEnglish
          23·
          1 year ago

          That doesn’t clarify anything at all, and in fact reflects a desire do denigrate people for asking honest questions.

          • Lil' Bobby Tables@programming.devEnglish
            62·
            1 year ago

            How about this. SO is a conglomerate of volunteering peers, who do not work for you, do not work with (and sometimes compete with) each other, and agree to meet as honest professionals to solve common problems and clarify interesting issues. This is why the presentation of the question is so important.

            It is not a tutorial site, a help desk, or a source of free labor. It’s denigrating to treat it that way.

            If you’ve got a stupid question, that’s fine, there’s nothing wrong with that, we all have them now and then. But if it is not conducive to the field, we much prefer you throw it on a web bot like GPT first, and return to SO for reflection if you need it.

            • rmam@programming.devEnglish
              25·
              1 year ago

              How about this. SO is a conglomerate of volunteering peers, who do not work for you (…)

              And that’s fine. Ignore the question and move on with your life.

              As you’ve said, you are only a volunteer. You don’t own the service nor do you get to dictate what other people’s doubts are worthy or not. If you want to help others them share whatever you can share. Otherwise go find a better use of your time without getting in the way of every other volunteer.

              It is not a tutorial site, a help desk, or a source of free labor. It’s denigrating to treat it that way.

              Stack Overflow states quite clearly in its home page that it is “A community-based space to find and contribute answers to technical challenges”.

              Call it “help desk” or whatever. Stack Overflow is by design a place to ask questions to technical challenges.

              You do not get to dictate what other people find challenging. You do not get to abuse services to abuse people by denigrating them.

              • shagie@programming.devEnglish
                2·
                1 year ago

                https://stackoverflow.com/tour

                With your help, we’re working together to build a library of detailed, high-quality answers to every question about programming.

                There’s a call out to quality of answers… which has implications for the quality of the questions.

                Focus on questions about an actual problem you have faced. Include details about what you have tried and exactly what you are trying to do.

                Make note of the use “exactly what you are trying to do”. When people are asking about what are you trying to do and the nature of the question… that’s part of it.

                Not all questions work well in our format. Avoid questions that are primarily opinion-based, or that are likely to generate discussion rather than answers.

                Not everything is suited for the Q&A format that Stack Overflow uses. It isn’t a help desk - it’s a Q&A site that is trying to build a repository of information.

                Further reading: https://stackoverflow.blog/2011/06/13/optimizing-for-pearls-not-sand/

                In March 2010, we rebalanced our reputation system to favor answers. While we value good questions (and asking a great question is absolutely an art), we want to explicitly encourage people to provide the best possible answers. Without people interested in providing good answers, the questions are moot. We know that answers have more intrinsic…

                …

                That’s why we’re determined to keep question quality high, even at the cost of refusing a little sand. It’s true that you can’t have Q&A; without questions, but having the wrong sorts of questions is far more dangerous. The fastest way to kill any Q&A; site is to flood it with low-quality questions. I think Mark Trapp summed it up best in this meta answer:

                And an announcement of Stack Overflow: https://blog.codinghorror.com/introducing-stackoverflow-com/

                It is by programmers, for programmers, with the ultimate intent of collectively increasing the sum total of good programming knowledge in the world. No matter what programming language you use, or what operating system you call home. Better programming is our goal.

                The emphasis on “good” is in the original too.

                It may be that your question isn’t one that fits the site format well. That should be ok - there are many other places to ask questions. Stack Overflow is poorly designed for many types of questions in an effort to optimize its utility for being a repository of knowledge for people to search and find answers without having to ever ask a question.

        • rmam@programming.devEnglish
          4·
          1 year ago

          Most questions can be answered by RTFM. That does not automatically mean the questions should not be asked.

          Proponents of RTFM seem to believe all manuals are written well, when that’s the exception and not the norm.

          If all you have to say is RTFM, everyone would be better off if you sat out the question and let others chime in. The overall posture reeks of ladder pulling.