👋 to all the newcomers, let me know if you need any help getting settled in!
Giving this a shot after RIF died on me. Fuck Spez. I hope this takes off.
💖 to everybody who’s making this possible. There’s hoping that all the traffic can be managed
Speaking of traffic, if I were interested in running my own federate, what can I expect in terms of loading and where is the content actually stored, my single instance or distributed? I see the reqs. on RAM and CPU utilization but I’m actually more curious about usage data.
It depends on many parameters. Data from your users is stored locally. But then you have federation: every time one of your users subscribes to a community of another instance, your instance will cache it locally. You can manage how much cache it uses, but the cache is there of a reason.
Where did you find the CPU and RAM utilization data?
https://join-lemmy.org/docs/administration/administration.html
Lemmy uses roughly 150 MB of RAM in the default Docker installation. CPU usage is negligible.
I joined 2 weeks ago, I technically am a migrant lol but I feel like a veteran already .
WELCOME REDDITORS!
Tell us about the before-times, gramps!
We used to struggle without our beloved pre built subreddits!
We had to pray to our instance develop lords with praise for giving us space!
Fr fr tho this experience is historical and I’m learning just as much as you! I learn if there’s a community missing that you used to frequent, make it yourself!
I ended up making !onepiece@lemm.ee to fill my GOAT manga needs
Coming from Apollo? Go here: wefwef.app
Or just go therr anyway regardless of where you came from, it’s such a great app.
I unironically like the default web UI. It’s like a modernized old reddit. Also installed the PWA. I’d try wefwef, but its’ instance selector doesn’t even have the instance whose meta community we’re currently discussing it in :(
It didn’t have my instance either but it let me type it in and it worked, so I would try again :)
Ah right, it let me do it from the login modal, but not the instance selection modal lol
Fuck u/spez
This whole fediverse thing is a bit strange after 10 years of rif. But Reddit was going downhill for quite a while. Hope this takes off!
And reddit still has a long way down. Look at Facebook, it never died, it just lost most young users and it grew stale with conspiracy theories, blind hatred and fake news.
It’s the walmart-ification of social media. They’re self sustaining because of their size, but that’s not enough to make them an enjoyable experience. Just corporate, sterile, and lots of bored people.
It’s like buying from a supermarket and getting pretty much everything in one stop (most of it being mediocre) VS getting local, yummy, Bio, more expensive products from 5 local small shops.
walmart-ification
I prefer “Enshitification”.
After 3 weeks of use, it still confounds me.
I think I’ve figured everything out, except how to link to posts across servers. That still drives me mad. Some of the apps (like Connect for Lemmy) are doing URL rewriting, but I can’t assume that’s happening for everyone.
It’s pretty strange coming from Reddit. Each instance has its own communities but you can access all of them from the instance you signed up in? Like the equivalent of subreddits within subreddits. Or maybe I’m just unused to it.
I’ve been trying to think of a good metaphor, but I haven’t landed on one yet. The best thing I’ve thought of is the old saying:
Whereever you are, you’re here.
Federation (for lemmy) is the concept of the different instances sharing sublemmys, posts, and comments with each other. So you can be on any instance and interact or subscribe with things from another.
The strong caveat is: some instances turn off federation with others. For example, Beehaw has stronger moderation, and they had problems with users and spam from a specific other instance (lemmy.world was one, I think). So in that case, Beehaw turned off federation with lemmy.world. That means that if you were logged in to Beehaw, you would not see any new content from lemmy.world until they turned federation back on.
edit: I thought of one more thing. For communities that are run by their developers, like Minecraft, Lemmy is a great solution. They could host their own Lemmy instance (lemmy.minecraft) and lock down so that only their sublemmy - /c/Minecraft - is created. But when they federate, they get all the other content from other Lemmy instances.
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As a user, you could sign up with lemmy.minecraft or lemm.ee, etc., and still see everything you want and sub to the /c/Minecraft.
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As mods/admins, they only need to focus on their Minecraft thing. And they have complete control over that, because they can literally shut down the entire instance.
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It’s just different sites (instances) running the Lemmy software, that all work together and share their data to create “Lemmy” the overall platform.
The concept is simple enough but the implementation can be a bit weird and especially right now when everyone’s trying out different mobile apps that are in different stages of development and have support for different features. Some of them make it a bit awkward to do things new users need to do like search and sub to communities, etc.
If there’s anything in particular you’re stuck on, feel free to ask!
I’m just confused about communities. Like if I wanted to follow a community about movies, is there a way to tell which community is the “main” one? Is there even such a thing as a “main” community on Lemmy? If not then how do people know where to be?? I love the federated concept but it also feels non user friendly, which I’m sure at least in part is because I’m confused.
So the idealistic idea is that there shouldn’t be a “main” community, there should be multiple that are all slightly different in terms of their approach to the topic and you can choose which one(s) best align with what you want.
In reality, at least until the userbase is significantly larger, it actually does make sense to huddle a bit for now and split up topics as needed later. So in this case what I’d do is head to Lemmy Explorer and search for your topic ie https://lemmyverse.net/communities?query=movies
This is quite a broad topic obviously so with a vague keyword search you’re gonna turn up some irrelevant things but there should be some that fit what you need. Then you can change the sort order to whatever you care about most, subscribers, active users, posts etc to decide which is the one you’re most interested in.
Personally I’ve just been subbing to all related communities on a topic, and crossposting my posts to see which one gets the most traction. The little “two squares” icon below the post info is crosspost, works pretty well. Ymmv with that tactic 🙂
I’m thinking of it like pre-Reddit phpBB forums on multiple sites except I only have to create one login and everything funnels into one convenient place.
I was in denial about Apollo going dark and naturally when I woke up at 2am I had to spend 2 hours finding & getting lemmy & wefwef setup.
Bye bye reddit!
Hah, me right now when I should’ve been asleep long ago. I tried to open RIF as usual, realized it really happened, and then spent the last hour or two trying to understand this site and make an account and whatnot. I was only partially successful on the former, but at least I made it here!
Welcome to the family, son
Thanks, dad.
I used Relay for Reddit for over 10 years. I just opened it to find it still working. Apparently the Dev is working out a pricing model with Reddit and it is continuing to work. I wish him the best of luck but sadly I’m not goning to be paying.
Plus you can’t see nsfw content which a lot of non-porn content still gets marked as
Same, I uninstalled Relay today expecting their app to shutdown soon.
Goodbye Reddit is Fun, hello Lemmy
Was on Apollo when it went dark, thought it was going to be a few more hours and apparently so did Christian but they killed access before he could revoke the key. Fuck reddit/u/spez
I hope spez chokes on his narcissism.
Hoping everything goes down in flames. Although I bet that he wouldn’t think it was because if him.
My first post as a refugee! Glad this place is here to fill the void.
Guess I’ll piggy-back; This is my first post/comment here as well. I came from Apollo (long time subscriber & beta tester). I think the grass will be greener… bring on the refugees and Boost for Lemmy (Maybe one day Apollo? One can dream)!
If you came from Apollo, than you can jump back on Apollo. Sorta.
Thank you; It’s currently down, but I like its UI. I’ve been beta testing Memmy for Lemmy on iOS, and so far I really enjoy it! I have Apollo up and running actually, but I haven’t used it as much since I found Memmy.
Edit: Spelling
Welcome, Bill!
I came over when the blackout started and it already feels more like home than Reddit has in years. Reddit slowly got more and more toxic/up its own ass as time went on…… like do you remember the episode of South Park where Kyle’s family moves to San Francisco? It was the Prius episode…. All the folks in San Fran sat around all day getting high and sniffing their own farts. That’s how Reddit has felt recently.
This change has been a long time coming I think, fuckin spez just threw some gas on a fire to try and make a quick buck.
Welcome!
Baby Steps to Lemmy, Baby steps to the comments, baby Steps to the post. -Dr. Leo Marvin
You don’t have to live like that. Like a refugee.
Hey all, giving lemmy a try since RIF is gone
Welcome! Former RiF user here too. Found any communities you like?
Still trying to figure things out, I was a mod on a Warhammer subreddit so I might just remake it here
It was weird using Reddit Is Fun like I always do then it just suddenly stopped.
I can’t create a community. I click the button and nothing happens. Any idea why? I’m trying to recreate a community from Reddit that really helped me when I was in a dark place.
Hey, I would like to debug this community creation issue, but I haven’t been able to reproduce this. Can you walk me through the exact steps that you’re taking? What text are you inputting into the creation form?
I could probably do a screen share at some point if that would help.
I log in, go to “Create Community”
Name and display name are both “exJW”
No icon or banner
Description is a one sentence thing that I change every time I try to create it
Moderator checkbox is unchecked
Languages are English and Undetermined
I’m using FireFox for Android
Hey, sorry for the slow response, I’ve been getting a lot of messages and working through them steadily.
Name and display name are both “exJW”
I suspect this is your issue - the actual name of a community must be lowercase. In my browser, it does tell me that the name is in a wrong format when I enter “exJW”, but it’s not super clear what the correct format is. I believe this error error message will need to be improved.
Anyway, I have created the community myself: https://lemm.ee/c/exjw. Please make a post in here and tag my name, I can then pass ownership of the community to you. At that point, you’ll be able to set it up however you like!
Thank you so much!
I created the post but I can’t figure out how to tag you.
Try on FF for Windows or Linux, on some instances I have had big problems with FF for android not accepting credentials
Other people have mentioned that using other browsers on android has worked for them, but I personally prefer to stick with what I trust
I did try Chrome on Android. I’ll try my desktop later.
Nice to have a new place to hang my virtual coat and peer into the endless void of the internet.
Glad to see Boost for Lemmy will be coming
Second ever comment here. I watched Apollo shut down live, went to sleep and then immediately tried opening it up again after waking up, out of habit - girlfriends still asleep and I got so used to browsing Reddit for a bit before we get up on weekends, it has become muscle memory.
Using Wefwef currently and it’s nice, awesome work especially for a web app.
Wow. Wefwef is really great. Thanks for making me aware of it.
Mlem also looks like Apollo
It’s 2am here and I just did exactly the same thing with rif. Gonna take some getting used to…
Give it an hour or so
Joining the party as RIF kicks the bed :')
Rif has been reddit for me for the past 10 ish years now, opened the app today to see error 429.
Good to be here :)
Ngl Jerboa is quite similar to RiF, so I’m definitely settling in well.
Definitely like Jerboa so far. Just spent the past hour searching and joining tons of channels.
Jerboa stopped working for me today for whatever reason so I switched to Connect and actually think I like it better so far.
Could be due to the version of the instance you’re on. Beehaw is on an older version and Jerboa crashes when you open it as Jerboa is on the latest version.
Yeah they really gotta make the app robust against old versions of Lemmy. No way all the instances are going to update as soon as the latest version is pushed.
The reason is 0.18 breaks a lot of features for example captcha. They all waiting for the fix.
I’m aware, but even so, admins have day jobs and whatnot. Perfectly coordinating every update across the entire Lemmy federation is just not something you should expect.
Jerboa stopped working for me too, I switched to summit, it’s a really nice lemmy app too.
Lift off is also great.
It’s my fave too but unfortunately has the opposite problem to Jerboa and currently servers that have upgraded to 0.18.1 don’t work! Hope they can get it sorted soon.
Edit: This is now fixed, hurrah!
I just wish there was a decent iOS app for lemmy that worked on iOS 15.
Try wefwef (name sucks). It’s a progressive web app so version shouldnt matter.
Using wefwef for now, thanks for the recommendation will give it a gander.
I love how quickly the community is coming up with replacements for apps and the service as a whole that people are used to.
Is wefwef an android or iOS app? I’m using jerboa, but heard about the virtues of wefwef and wanted to try it.
It’s a PWA(Progressive Web App) that functions through the browser and can be installed as an application that is just a wrapper around the browser.
All that to say it works on both Android and iOs, using it on Android myself.
Testing reply from wefwef. What a strange way to run an App!
Hope you’ve found the install button, it becomes more like a normal app once you can launch it directly from the app drawer instead of through the browser
Gonna miss RIF.
Yup. Little pang of sadness seeing it finally gone. I got years of procrastination out of that app.
Me too.
You’re all the technology-savvy intelligent ones who figured out Lemmy right away, months ago. I was trying to get into Lemmy even before July 1st but finally figured it out today November 10th! I finally got into Lemmy today. It was nearly as difficult as applying & repeatedly being rejected for competitive employment somewhere. sheesh.
Very sad to say goodby to RIF after 9 years. Lets get this party started and I got some learning to do in this new environment.
Sync for android here
The Dev from Sync announced a new Lemmy app it’s actually a WIP. Just wait a few weeks.
And it’s out now :) It works brilliantly, as you’d expect.
I’m missing baconreader :(
Same. Would love to see them make a lemmy app
