This is what I mean by the concept of “just works”… as I read what you wrote, I’m reading that Ubuntu just works for you, it’s just that - like any system - it got bogged down over time. If you’re saying Manjaro has a way of preventing the system from being bogged down over time that’s something else, but I’m not sure that’s what you’re saying. Manjaro is a rolling release, if I’m not mistaken. When I tried manjaro it “just worked” until I fucked up the rolling release by not updating it in a while and letting packages get so far out of date that updating it became a real pain in the ass. This isn’t a problem with ubuntu - what is a problem with ubuntu and most other distros is that you don’t get the latest packages without compiling from source, a problem that does go away with a rolling release distro, provided you stay on top of it.
What “just works” for some people doesn’t “just work” for others.
Ubuntu when I first tried it back when it was ubutntu 9.04 was amazing as it was different but it wasn’t anywhere as user friendly as manjaro or most other OSes are now. At the time it was miles ahead of the competition, but that gap has closed significantly.
But the point being is that I tried with 9.04, 12.04 and probably a couple later releases and the system never stayed functioning for long, and became slower that it seemed to be with earlier releases, whereas I found the snappiness/relative ease of installation etc with a different OS.
I think what I’m saying is: when Ubuntu was the only offering for user friendly Linux it was amazing, but now that it’s not the only flavour striving to provide that experience it feels clunky and outdated.
And I too made that mistake with manjaro at one point, borking the install by not consistently updating it.
What “just works” for some people doesn’t “just work” for others.
This is what I mean by the concept of “just works”… as I read what you wrote, I’m reading that Ubuntu just works for you, it’s just that - like any system - it got bogged down over time. If you’re saying Manjaro has a way of preventing the system from being bogged down over time that’s something else, but I’m not sure that’s what you’re saying. Manjaro is a rolling release, if I’m not mistaken. When I tried manjaro it “just worked” until I fucked up the rolling release by not updating it in a while and letting packages get so far out of date that updating it became a real pain in the ass. This isn’t a problem with ubuntu - what is a problem with ubuntu and most other distros is that you don’t get the latest packages without compiling from source, a problem that does go away with a rolling release distro, provided you stay on top of it.
What “just works” for some people doesn’t “just work” for others.
Sorry, I could’ve been clearer!
Ubuntu when I first tried it back when it was ubutntu 9.04 was amazing as it was different but it wasn’t anywhere as user friendly as manjaro or most other OSes are now. At the time it was miles ahead of the competition, but that gap has closed significantly.
But the point being is that I tried with 9.04, 12.04 and probably a couple later releases and the system never stayed functioning for long, and became slower that it seemed to be with earlier releases, whereas I found the snappiness/relative ease of installation etc with a different OS.
I think what I’m saying is: when Ubuntu was the only offering for user friendly Linux it was amazing, but now that it’s not the only flavour striving to provide that experience it feels clunky and outdated.
And I too made that mistake with manjaro at one point, borking the install by not consistently updating it.
Couldn’t have put it better myself