While I dislike bloat, I also avoid distros that have been minimalized to the point of uselessness. Minimalist distros are great for old and embedded computers, but regular desktop ones should not require you to install 90% of the OS after booting it.
Connecting to wifi in live environment was pretty easy. I recall all I needed to do was iwctl and it worked. Though, I do sympathize with you. This should’ve been much easier considering that it’s expected that the user is going to need to access the internet.
Not to be “that guy” but the installation manual on the ArchWiki does say to install wireless drivers/networking software before you reboot out of the installation medium.
Yes, most laptops usually have a page on Arch Wiki for specific quirks, however most drivers are in the kernel and do not need additional installation (Intel, Realtek and the Qualcomm one maybe Athenian) are all in the kernel, you likely just forgot software to initiate connectivity with Wi-Fi like NetworkManager.
Same. I know a little about Linux, but if I’m installing on a laptop or something where wired internet isn’t a good option and there’s no discernible cli tools installed to help configure/fix WiFi, that’s too arcane for my blood.
What does “uselessness” mean to you? Arch and other minimal distros are completely functional. If anything, they require less work to set up than a typical distro if you are a competent user who intends to customize the hell out of their system. It’s not for “old and embedded computers”… there are distros for that. Arch has an explicit philosophy and target audience, and it has nothing to do with low hardware power.
While I dislike bloat, I also avoid distros that have been minimalized to the point of uselessness. Minimalist distros are great for old and embedded computers, but regular desktop ones should not require you to install 90% of the OS after booting it.
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Connecting to wifi in live environment was pretty easy. I recall all I needed to do was
iwctland it worked. Though, I do sympathize with you. This should’ve been much easier considering that it’s expected that the user is going to need to access the internet.deleted by creator
I mean, it’s a learning experience which is nice
And also there’s archinstall now, if you just want it to work.
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Not to be “that guy” but the installation manual on the ArchWiki does say to install wireless drivers/networking software before you reboot out of the installation medium.
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Yes, most laptops usually have a page on Arch Wiki for specific quirks, however most drivers are in the kernel and do not need additional installation (Intel, Realtek and the Qualcomm one maybe Athenian) are all in the kernel, you likely just forgot software to initiate connectivity with Wi-Fi like NetworkManager.
Same. I know a little about Linux, but if I’m installing on a laptop or something where wired internet isn’t a good option and there’s no discernible cli tools installed to help configure/fix WiFi, that’s too arcane for my blood.
What does “uselessness” mean to you? Arch and other minimal distros are completely functional. If anything, they require less work to set up than a typical distro if you are a competent user who intends to customize the hell out of their system. It’s not for “old and embedded computers”… there are distros for that. Arch has an explicit philosophy and target audience, and it has nothing to do with low hardware power.