• Puzzle_Sluts_4Ever@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Its more that anyone with even a passing knowledge of history that extends beyond “what I read on facebook” more or less think the Spartans were god damned idiots (Oenomaus told no lies…). And praise for Sparta is right up there with “Actually, 1940s German technology was amazing and generations beyond everyone else” in terms of “Da fuq did you just say?”.

    Which… actually might not be the most inaccurate here. Maybe people at reddit will notice a change. Odds are most people will get just as angry at the new mods as the old mods and everyone will continue to upvote the same stolen memes every day (just like there are some folk here who think they are on a mission from god to repost every single reddit post they find…).

    But I would rather we try to be at least a bit hopeful.


    The myth of the Spartan is actually a really interesting one. Mostly it is a mixture of Greek tourism propaganda (so that they can appeal to “manly men” rather than just being about art and statues) and military, generally American, propaganda. https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/07/22/sparta-popular-culture-united-states-military-bad-history/ is not the best article on the subject, but it is easy to digest and I had it handy.

    From a military side? It really is all about the indoctrination. They LOVE to build up spartans as these heroic super soldiers because they were trained from birth as warriors. When the reality is that they were indoctrinated into a cult from birth to ensure obedience and conformity. Which… obviously has benefits when you are taking a bunch of teenaged boys and trying to balance unthinking loyalty with the ability to decide how to achieve an objective within a narrow set of parameters. They aren’t being taught to not think about who they are shooting or abducting. They are fighting like heroic spartan warriors!

    And then the brainwashed folk come back home, possibly raise some kids, and you get that heroic myth that helped them justify all the war crimes and murder into the brains of little kids who just want to play soldier.