Let’s see who’s subbed to this /c/…

All of a sudden everyone was gone and moved over to tenforward@lemmy.world, what happened?

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    Pretty much what @zcd said. The TL:DR; version is @Stamets@lemmy.world and the Risa mods had beef, Risa really stopped being a “Star Trek but anything goes” casual sort of space when the mods started getting more anal about the rules, so many just upped and left to tenforward.

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      8 months ago

      This is almost 100% accurate but there’s a slight caveat. I’d rephrase it as

      The TL:DR; version is @Stamets@lemmy.world and the Risa mods had beef, Risa really stopped being a “Star Trek but anything goes” casual sort of space when the mod started doing whatever he wanted because Risa had ‘no rules’, so many just upped and left to tenforward.

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        the mod started doing whatever he wanted because Risa had ‘no rules’

        Thanks for clarifying.

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          No worries! It’s a big ass post to try and condense. You did better than I did in any of my attempts lol

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        This is laughable. You just got butthurt because the Risa mod actually told you to take your bullshit elsewhere. Your community is not free of arbitrary rules. One look through the modlog and history shows you are way more of a petty tyrant than than even the shit Risa mods.

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      8 months ago

      And the beef started when the Risa mods refused to ban people for being xenogender

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      8 months ago

      That was a constant over there that I saw, I was banned for a few days for just asking why an opinion about Worf’s son was removed. I am curious though about the specific thing that triggered the exodus

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        I was banned for a few days for just asking why an opinion about Worf’s son was removed.

        Haha what a comment, that’s pure Lemmy shit there.

        I have had comments silently deleted, from other communities. Once another user asked why I deleted my comment, which I had not, and that was how I found out. Pretty lame for people to censor stuff in secret like that.

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          Yeah, the fun thing about being an instance admin is I get to see what they removed, it just shows as (removed) in the title. (As an admin I could say "Great, but on my instance it’s not removed, not that my 5 person instance is going to change too much there)

          I found the old removal, the exact reason why it was removed from the ModLog?

          Nobody cares about your lukewarm takes.

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      Woof that’s a read, only 1/4 of the way through it but it’s a rollercoaster. Thanks for posting it, I never saw this.

      It’s especially interesting because I’ve had those exact sort of interactions with their mods, specifically Value. I went form excitedly thinking up memes and stuff to talk about to zero interest in one interaction with them.

      I’ve tried to take those lessons on my own in my own mod communities. I rarely use the remove button, unless something is actually directly against the rules or heinous. If I don’t like something? Well tough if the community likes it that’s different. Is something critical of the community? Let’s hear it out. Usually downvoters will take care of something on their own.

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        Especially when the post or comment is only being seen or involves maybe … 10 people? … sometimes less. Lemmy is still in its infancy right now … and it may grow, or it may not.

        It’s a whole other story if the content being discussed is being argued over by hundreds or thousands of users.

        When a mod is just axing, deleting and threatening users who are just interacting with two, three or maybe a dozen people … what does it matter?

        The only time it would become an issue is if you had an obvious nutjob just posting all kinds of ugly random shit all over the place. Otherwise, just let users and the community grow organically in whatever way it wants and over time when you get those hundreds or thousands of users instantly joining into every conversation, then you can start heavily moderating content.

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          The true meaning of “The customer is always right”. The community may be moving towards something you (as a mod) didn’t anticipate, but they’re obviously there for a reason. Give them what they want or they’ll move onto somewhere that can. Forcing people into a set of rules may seem like a short term solution, but really it just hurts the community.

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            At this stage of Lemmy’s growth … mods are just babysitters … they should just let the kids play whatever they want in whatever way they please, as long as no one is hurting each other … or to weed out that crack baby that is flinging its own feces at others and wants to eat the furniture.

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        FYI the “transphobe” he saw on startrek.website is me, and he thinks I’m a transphobe because I have a xenogender. The “transphobic incident” was me identifying with 7/9 in a nonbinary way. Stamets is truscum who wants to police the trans community to his sensibilities without even being trans.

        Also he banned me from his subs for having a mental disorder.

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      Sidenote here but this user in question? They’re a self admitted alt account of someone who was banned from lemmy.world, startrek.website, lemmy.ml and even hexbear for transphobic and bigoted behavior.

      Hey, thats me! And it wasnt because I was transphobic or bigoted, it was because I know about the most popular hentai website in the world, and pointed someone to it. Apparently the most popular hentai website in the world is illegal content, who knew?

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        No, it’s me. He thinks it’s tramsphobic for me to be nonbinary because he’s truscum.

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          Another day, another reminder that every large group of humans are going to have their assholes and idiots. No one should be called transphobic because of their identity, that doesnt even make sense. Im cis, is that transphobic?

          Whatever happened to the days of Trek vs Wars and completely shitting on Gate? Now its all about identity and labels and we’ve forgotten whats important, that they dumped the Sword of Kahless in interstellar space when it belongs in a musuem!

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            /lh how dare you shit on Gate? Stargate is awesome. Jaffa Kree! Show this shol’va the power of the Goa’uld!

            /uj Stargate is like if Star Trek had a mandated 5 Darmoks per season. What’s not to like?

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    Stamets was mad they wouldn’t ban people for having mental illnesses or for being nonbinary.