Hellos, so, like everyone else here I am a Reddit refugee with a particular and profound hatred for karma, and the idea of it, because I saw how Reddit karma made everything on that hellsite toxic. People’s self-worth became tied to it because it was a direct measure of other people’s approval of you, and so people did everything possible to maximize their karma, including making bot accounts that karma farmed and sold them to marketers. People would fly into a rage and refuse to listen to each other simply because their comments were getting downvoted, making civil debate impossible and causing destabilization everywhere. Reddit karma is double plus ungood.

From what I understand, Wefwef has a similar feature where it shows your total post and comment scores. That’s basically Reddit karma, and it needs to go, like now. Even if it’s client-side, it doesn’t matter, because it is tying a number to people’s self-worth and will cause the same toxic, mean-spiritedness, negativity, anger, vitriol, and corporate marketers exploiting the situation like vultures on a corpse that we saw the last time we migrated to a new site.

Please, PLEASE remove the comment and post scores from the app. PLEASE don’t let Lemmy fail like the other sites did. PLEASE don’t let that kind of hurt be allowed to spread through our communities anymore.

People don’t NEED to be rewarded or punished based on other people’s opinions of them and their comments or posts. They don’t NEED to see that shit. It only causes harm and pain.

PLEASE take it off.

For our sanity’s sake. For our people’s sake. For decency’s sake.

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    1 year ago

    gotta say I dislike karma as well, but what a client does clientside is sort of its own business.

    its likely that the best easy to keep this “karma” irrelevant is to just ignore both it and the apps that try to quantify it.

    having said that, depending on how a client fetches data to calculate things it could be defined as instance load abuse and those clients could be user-agent banned from an instance at the discretion of the instance admins. this really should remain an instance by instance choice though.

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      1 year ago

      🤔 Can instance admins actually stop apps from tabulating karma? How does that work? Do they ban the whole app or stop certain data from being accessible by the API or?