Hellos, so, like everyone else here I am a Reddit refugee with a particular and profound hatred for karma, and the idea of it, because I saw how Reddit karma made everything on that hellsite toxic. People’s self-worth became tied to it because it was a direct measure of other people’s approval of you, and so people did everything possible to maximize their karma, including making bot accounts that karma farmed and sold them to marketers. People would fly into a rage and refuse to listen to each other simply because their comments were getting downvoted, making civil debate impossible and causing destabilization everywhere. Reddit karma is double plus ungood.

From what I understand, Wefwef has a similar feature where it shows your total post and comment scores. That’s basically Reddit karma, and it needs to go, like now. Even if it’s client-side, it doesn’t matter, because it is tying a number to people’s self-worth and will cause the same toxic, mean-spiritedness, negativity, anger, vitriol, and corporate marketers exploiting the situation like vultures on a corpse that we saw the last time we migrated to a new site.

Please, PLEASE remove the comment and post scores from the app. PLEASE don’t let Lemmy fail like the other sites did. PLEASE don’t let that kind of hurt be allowed to spread through our communities anymore.

People don’t NEED to be rewarded or punished based on other people’s opinions of them and their comments or posts. They don’t NEED to see that shit. It only causes harm and pain.

PLEASE take it off.

For our sanity’s sake. For our people’s sake. For decency’s sake.

  • Amilo159@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    I see nothing wrong in having scores. It encourages users to be active and post interesting stuff and provide interesting conversations.

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      1 year ago

      In theory. In reality reposting the same memes, jokes and images will get you more Karma than any thought out, well written conversation ever could.

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      1 year ago

      I don’t think OP has an issue with scores being visible on individual comments and posts.

      The issue is that wefwef displays your total comment scores on your profile, where Lemmy does not (by default).

      I think OP has a point - once people start caring about their total score, it could lead to toxic behavior across the platform.

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      1 year ago

      I agree with you. I never saw a major issue with it. Sure, some people were way to focused on it but I do think it encourages more good than bad.

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      No it doesn’t. People already do that on their own; all karma does is encourage all of the toxic shit we ran away from. Why would we shit all over a new community by repeating a senseless and destructive mistake?

      • Amilo159@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        Only thing most people ran away from is predatory API pricing that killed apps with superior interface, forcing users to use sorry official app.