Hellos, so, like everyone else here I am a Reddit refugee with a particular and profound hatred for karma, and the idea of it, because I saw how Reddit karma made everything on that hellsite toxic. People’s self-worth became tied to it because it was a direct measure of other people’s approval of you, and so people did everything possible to maximize their karma, including making bot accounts that karma farmed and sold them to marketers. People would fly into a rage and refuse to listen to each other simply because their comments were getting downvoted, making civil debate impossible and causing destabilization everywhere. Reddit karma is double plus ungood.

From what I understand, Wefwef has a similar feature where it shows your total post and comment scores. That’s basically Reddit karma, and it needs to go, like now. Even if it’s client-side, it doesn’t matter, because it is tying a number to people’s self-worth and will cause the same toxic, mean-spiritedness, negativity, anger, vitriol, and corporate marketers exploiting the situation like vultures on a corpse that we saw the last time we migrated to a new site.

Please, PLEASE remove the comment and post scores from the app. PLEASE don’t let Lemmy fail like the other sites did. PLEASE don’t let that kind of hurt be allowed to spread through our communities anymore.

People don’t NEED to be rewarded or punished based on other people’s opinions of them and their comments or posts. They don’t NEED to see that shit. It only causes harm and pain.

PLEASE take it off.

For our sanity’s sake. For our people’s sake. For decency’s sake.

  • tjk@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    if you put any association between upvotes and self worth, on any platform, thats on you (in general, not @ you op). i still thought karma was a fun measurement though, i see no problem it.

    reddit hasn’t “failed” yet, probably wont, ever. if it ever does, i promise you that karma wasnt the reason.

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      I obviously don’t, but everyone else does, and it’s not even something most people can really help. Fucking social media corporations had their marketing departments come up with the stupid idea knowing that people would be addicted to the dopamine hit from being upvoted.

      At least on the OG Lemmy site, being upvoted or downvoted doesn’t actually affect you. But an app purposefully bringing back something the devs did not implement in the first place for good reasons, is deeply problematic and people need to speak out against the practice.

      We have a chance to break the cycles of the past and we ought to take it.