Why YSK: Beehaw defederated from Lemmy.World and Sh.itjust.works effectively shadowbanning anyone from those instances. You will not be able to interact with their users or posts.

Edit: A lot of people are asking why Beehaw did this. I want to keep this post informational and not color it with my personal opinion. I am adding a link to the Beehaw announcement if you are interested in reading it, you can form your own views. https://beehaw.org/post/567170

  • Nothus@infosec.pub@infosec.pub
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    1 year ago

    I’m blocking all communities hosted on instances that defederate from other instances. If you want your own private forum, you’ve got it. Bye Beehaw.

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      1 year ago

      Being able to create spaces according to your needs without having your hand forced by anyone is kind of the point of the Fediverse. Beehaw can cultivate a community that fits what they want, just like Lemmy.world. That’s what it’s for.

      There’s nothing stopping you from registering on Beehaw if you want to post there and contribute to that community. But without being able to detach themselves from instances that have open registration, there’s no way to even slow trolls down. Banning would be meaningless, because you can register as many accounts as you could want.

      The point of the Fediverse is decentralization and choice where the default options have been a bland toxic mess.

      Personally, I enjoy both the more cultivated environment of Beehaw and the bigger community feeling of Lemmy.world, so I registered with both Beehaw and Lemmy.blahaj.zone so that i can post and read whatever.

      It’s not about what’s better, it’s about choice.

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        1 year ago

        Good points all around. We’re all coming to this experience with different preferences. It makes sense to participate in each individual community if you find them valuable due to their different types of moderation and if you don’t mind having to register and operate under separate accounts to do so. I feel very differently from you on this. I prefer to moderate myself and curate my own forum experience, and I don’t place a high value on thoroughly moderated forums that are disconnected from other platforms. That’s basically what Reddit was, but a lot of Lemmy users maintain a presence there as well, and they should feel free to do whatever they want.

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      1 year ago

      Well then you better block this one too, because Lemmy.world defederated from the tanky instances. In fact, most instances did.

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        1 year ago

        I’m not sure what you mean by “tanky instances” and haven’t heard of the defederating that you’re referring to. Could you link me some info about it? Everything I’m finding says that the main lemmy instances are run by “tankies,” which is apparently a pejorative term for communists.

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          Yeah, before all the new Reddit refugees the biggest instance was Lemmygrad, which was run and used exclusively by tankies. It gave Lemmy a bad wrap unfortunately.

          Obviously with all the new users that’s changed, with instances like Lemmy.World quickly surpassing it. Now I’m not even sure if Lemmygrad is in the top 5. But my point is that most big instances have defederated from Lemmygrad, lemmy.world included.

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            1 year ago

            Thank you. I’m going to research into this more, and I’m not above blocking every lemmy.world community as well. Seems like the biggest instances are the ones with the most uptight powermods. That’s to be expected. What was their reasoning for defederating from lemmygrad.ml and the other “tankie” instances- do you know?