Sorry for the short post, I’m not able to make it nice with full context at the moment, but I want to quickly get this announcement out to prevent confusion:

Unfortunately, people are uploading child sexual abuse images on some instances (apparently as a form of attack against Lemmy). I am taking some steps to prevent such content from making it onto lemm.ee servers. As one preventative measure, I am disabling all image uploads on lemm.ee until further notice - this is to ensure that lemm.ee can not be used as gateway to spread CSAM into the network.

It will not possible to upload any new avatars or banners while this limit is in effect.

I’m really sorry for the disruption, it’s a necessary trade-off for now until we figure out the way forward.

  • Awoo [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
    8·
    1 year ago

    List within the study and the classifications:

    If this image doesn’t display for you(because of the attacks) let me know and I’ll find some other way to share it.

    Here’s an image of how the comparison shakes up:

    • TherouxSonfeir@lemm.ee
      1·
      1 year ago

      Well, your article was from 1986, and this image lists the USSR… please, 2023 successful communist countries. List, text.

      • Awoo [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
        10·
        1 year ago

        I am 100% certain that if you compared socialist countries today you would get the same result.

        This is extremely obvious when you consider that despite obviously lower levels of development in countries like China, Cuba and Vietnam have higher life expectancy than America.

        Not to mention that 21% of america is illiterate whereas literacy in socialist countries is consistently the highest in the world.

        Any person doing even the most limited of critical thought about healthcare access, education and life expectancy can understand that socialist countries today would come out on top when compared to their capitalist counterparts that sit at the same level of development.

        The fact that you just dismiss it with the USSR present in the data is odd. You are aware that rent in the USSR was 5% of your total income correct? I think your perspective and understanding of how people lived is not in line with reality, your confusion about this data is because you have fully bought into propaganda instead of getting a proper and measured idea about things. You are not immune to propaganda.

        • TherouxSonfeir@lemm.ee
          1·
          1 year ago

          Life expectancy is your way to determine successful?

          I’m not sure i’d really consider any of those places a good place to live. China is pretty crazy and jails people for talking about Winnie the Pooh. Is that your idea of government?

          Cuba and Vietnam also have lower life expectancy than the US.

          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy

          Look at Hong Kong kicking ass at #1 though. (Not exactly communist with all that love for the free market)

          I think your info might be a bit out of date at this point.

          But thanks for the chat.

          • Awoo [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
            9·
            1 year ago

            Using wikipedia is dogshit, stop using it.

            The World Bank data is here, which is the same data used in the study: https://datatopics.worldbank.org

            The actual current data is:

            USA: 77.28

            Cuba: 77.57

            Vietnam: 75.38

            China: 78.08

            Look at Hong Kong kicking ass at #1 though.

            Hong Kong is not a country, it is a city in China. Individual cities are not good examples of life expectancy when life expectancy of cities typically outperforms life expectancy of rural regions due to quicker access to life-saving medical facilities afforded by density. This is why you really shouldn’t rely on Wikipedia for your understanding of anything. You should go to primary sources yourself instead of allowing editors to curate and present information for you.

            I think your info might be a bit out of date at this point.

            Irony?

            • TherouxSonfeir@lemm.ee
              2·
              1 year ago

              Worldbank.org

              403 - Forbidden: Access is denied. You do not have permission to view this directory or page using the credentials that you supplied.

              I don’t get the irony. Your data is either not found or decades old. Then you shut down Wikipedia, which has sources cited.

              I can make an image to display whatever info I want. Your sources are poor, or biased.

              • Awoo [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
                8·
                1 year ago

                Your data is either not found

                Bro it’s the world bank. If you can’t access it that’s a problem on your fucking side not the most reliable data source used in academia for nations on the fucking planet.

                Holy fucking shit is this your first time even hearing about them? Do they teach anything in your schools at all?

                  • Awoo [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
                    7·
                    1 year ago

                    That’s literally not what you just linked to lol. It’s what I linked to sure. But you know how to type in a basic URL instead of a subdomain that’s only used for certain links.

                    The url error on my part is irrelevant. You’re pretending to be internet illiterate for the sake of defending a position you already know can’t be defended. This is what you people always do, rather than accept that any real analysis of human conditions under socialism vs capitalism does not support capitalism you deflect.

          • robinn2 [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
            8·
            1 year ago

            China is pretty crazy and jails people for talking about Winnie the Pooh.

            Complete BS. Here’s an exhibit on “The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh” in Shanghai Disneyland. It’s absurd that this is the only nonsense you can muster to justify China’s higher life expectancy (even given semi-colonial subjugation).

            Cuba and Vietnam also have lower life expectancy than the US.

            Cuba is a tiny country that has been massively sanctioned by the largest imperialist nation on earth (the US) for 60 years (after they defeated the U.S.-backed dictator Batista and stopped being a sugar colony of America). It seems that according to the World Bank (super unbiased lmao, and yes this is the same organization sourced in your Wiki article), Cuba’s life expectancy is ~73 while the U.S. is ~76. Personally, given the huge gap in development compared to the two countries, and that Cuba has not engaged in imperialism once whilst the U.S. is known for such things, this small difference is relatively impressive for Cuba and makes you look like a brainworm-infested child for implying a level playing field.

            I didn’t think I’d have to explain Vietnam’s history of colonial subjugation by the French and imperialist plunder by the French, U.S., and U.K., of which millions of Vietnamese were killed through bombing/being burned alive. History does not matter of course, so let us analyze their life expectancy: ~74 years, whereas the U.S. life expectancy is ~76. With all this in mind, a two year gap somehow justifies the inherent “superiority” of the U.S. system!

            Look at Hong Kong

            I’ve looked, and @Awoo@hexbear.net already gave an excellent response to this (which of course you ignore in your reply). Don’t act snarky unless you’ve earned it, and you haven’t earned it.

            “Socialism Always Fails”