World’s first crewed liquid hydrogen plane takes off::undefined

  • Revanee@lemmy.one
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    1 year ago

    The point is that, unlike kerosene, hydrogen can be made using clean energy

    • MonkCanatella@sh.itjust.works
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      1 year ago

      The point is that, until electrolysis is cheaper than using natural gas, it will continue to be made with natural gas.

      • iturnedintoanewt@lemm.ee
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        Yes, but now the onus is moved away from finding a non polluting engine, which needs to be on the moving vehicle, to a non polluting fuel, which can be produced anywhere. And can technically and with proper regulation be produced with no pollution. Which is a lot more than the current state of affairs.

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          That’s really lucky for fossil fuel companies who will be making bank on hydrogen, and stalling any research or innovation in green hydrogen. You act like there are no major players making tons of money from hydrogen already, who don’t want electrolysis to gain any ground against the status quo which is making them filthy rich

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            Again, this can be achieved through regulation. Regulating the source of hydrogen manufacturing process, for once. If a government wants, it can do it and enforce it.

            • MonkCanatella@sh.itjust.works
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              Have you heard of regulatory capture? What makes you think we’ll regulate hydrogen, when we’re not regulating fossil fuels, which is why we’re in this mess in the first place? The first thing these companies are going to do is say that we need to be deregulated to fight climate change.

        • MonkCanatella@sh.itjust.works
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          nice false equivalency. And I’m not prescribing anything, I’m describing what is currently happening, and that it will continue to happen until electrolysis is more profitable than natural gas.

    • KSP Atlas@sopuli.xyz
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      It can be, but it takes a huge amount of power to do it, and the biggest hydrogen production method (reforming) produces GHGs itself

      • where_am_i@sh.itjust.works
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        So what? Build solar plants in Africa, pump out hydrogen, keep flying as often as you want emissions free. It is a solution and as such a hydrogen plane is a massive advancement towards a sustainable future for the aviation. Whether it will turn oit this way is a different question.

        • Pottsunami@lemmy.world
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          Make it with nuclear power. Turn water to hydrogen and oxygen. Release the oxygen. Package the hydrogen. Burn the hydrogen and it mixes with the oxygen. Maybe eject the spent radioactive fuel into space some day?