• jdeath@lemm.ee
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    10 个月前

    Neil Harbisson is the world’s first officially recognised human cyborg

    fucking bullshit. stephen hawking couldn’t function or communicate without his chair & computer. you’re gonna say that doesn’t count? then i don’t trust your judgement

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          yep, same here except i think power-source makes a slight difference to the degree of cyborginess. maybe we need a scale. maybe something like:

          1. caveman with tools, self-powered
          2. ancient person using naturalistic propulsion methods (wind, animals) for vehicles (ships, chariots) etc
          3. engine (steam, electric, gas) powered entities (vehicles, factories, aircraft)
          4. direct nervous system integration for thought-based control
          5. shared consciousness
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      I know somebody who has implated hearing aids. If they’re not a cyborg, I don’t know who is.

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        10 个月前

        hernia mesh brother! that’s a great idea, I’m stealing it! my man

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      I think generally, assistive devices like Hawking’s wheelchair/speech synth wouldn’t qualify one for the title of “cyborg”, since they’re replacing lost/damaged functionality, and didn’t grant him any abilities not already available to the average person. Whereas Harbisson’s modification is giving him additional abilities that he didn’t previously have and are outside of the typical human experience.

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        Replacing lost functionality is also acceptable for a cyborg, but Hawkings simply didn’t replace any organic part of himself, he used external devices. Someone with cochlear implants or a total artificial heart totally should count as a cyborg though - they have integrated mechanical body parts (well, both are partly external I guess…)
        But it doesn’t really make sense that just because this version of a hearing implant doesn’t give you better than normal hearing, having an identical device that did would be the difference between being a cyborg or not.