I’m also unironically a fan of randint so

Yes, in hindsight, calling that genocide with no real evidence of direct killing is a bit too much.

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But the report I linked to mentioned coercive birth control and internment or imprisonment for violations of the family planning policy (page 35).

Your interpretation is much stronger than the report: ‘but remained “seriously concerned about reported instances of the use of coercive measures, including forced abortion and forced sterilization, with a view to limiting births”’. I’m not even saying that it isn’t happening. But if it was a massive problem, you’d think there’d be more than reports. There are mobile phones and foreign tourists in Xinjiang, it’s not like the government would be able to forcibly abort 10% of babies there without someone taking a smartphone video of the abortion police coming to their home.

I’m reminded that forced sterilisation of minorities in the US is a known fact.

I choose lemm.ee specifically because of the conservative defed policy.

I’m legit sorry for all the drama and unpaid work the mods have to go through. Really.

I applaud OP for the the citations and research. I appreciate his linking to the UNHRC report, but nowhere in that report does it mention “genocide”. I’d honestly like people to compare it to multiple UNHRC reports on US treatment of its black population.

I’m no expert, maybe China is taking an overly heavy hand in Xinjiang. But to call it a genocide when no evidence exists for mass killing, and when the US war on terror lead to 5 million actual deaths, is absurd projection and and diminishes the value of the word “genocide”.