I just want to say thank you for providing the instance.

For myself, lemmy.world and lemmy.ml are strictly politically one way or another and perhaps somewhat intolerant of other views. I like how this space is something that can be a gateway into interacting with users of all persuasions without the “quick, defederate them all” nonsense. I only hope and wish that lemm.ee grows to maintain it’s position as one of the key cornerstones of the lemmy community.

Thanks for providing this space and persisting. I can imagine it has not been easy.

Are the problem with the people who watch the video, or the people who create, or host the videos?

Delayed response, but based on you liking Minecraft, survival type genre might be good.

Valheim and Project Zomboid are great games. Subnautica is very immersive. Stardew Valley is a lot of fun.

BTW, have you tried MineClone2 on Minetest. It’s a Minecraft clone so much more fun than Minetest.

You’re assuming how this can be done. The law in the UK is that it is illegal to import or breed these dogs. You can implement legislation in which dogs can live out their lives and eventually it ain’t a problem.

Of course, I am not willing to watch children and old people getting mauled because you care about violent dogs designed to kill. Kill 'em like they kill me burgers…

Are both dangerous in the wrong hands? Yes.

Seeing things you don’t like and blaming the internet…

But the companies chosen for login is a slap in the face of anyone who cares about privacy.

If it is e2e encrypted, why would this change mitigate what they are concerned about?

That is a massive disappointment. Hopefully Element gets their video calls sorted. Why can I not just have privacy tools that I can use? Why are the good ones taken away?

It was actually the BBC that documents this, and those expansions. Foreign policy wise, it’s about as imperial as it comes. It’s pro-Israel, pro-Ukraine, pro-NATO.

Even if the point you raise is technically correct, knowing interests in that area are uncomfortable about that and pushing through that, could be construed as a little antagonistic. The west had nuclear non-proliferation treaties in this regards post the cold war to remove tensions. This was one of those policies aimed at de-escalation. Even if it’s technically legal, choosing actions that will piss off countries you’re trying to work through de-escalations with either stupid or antagonistic.

I think the Russian propaganda line is that NATO started this, so Russia are justified. To make it clear, Russia aren’t justified to invade a country and commit atrocities, but even then, in any situation, if you cannot look back at your own actions, and think is there something we could have done differently, you’re doomed to repeat the same mistakes. There is often this weird view that your side can do no wrong. The reality is, both can, and there can be multiple assholes countries around the table, even if one is a far bigger asshole country.

I understand the concept of a safe space. I’m referring to the pro-China/Russia views. I’m a British democratic socialist. A proud lefty. I dislike large countries and their foreign policy (Russia, China and US). With that, I dislike my government’s conduct in the world, and their actions in support Israel, and Saudi etc. I am frequently dismayed and embarrassed. However, some of the pro Stalin stuff is weird, disturbing and has festered for a while. Can you be principled when you condemn some atrocities and rationalise away others?

I will engage in debate of course, and challenge where fit. I don’t think that echo chamber was good in some respects.

I’m not going to defend Azov, or their beliefs. Their prominence came when they were defending from invasion, including Mariupol in which civilians were killed, their homes were destroyed, and the city starved and flattened.

While no sane person thinks Azov is a good thing, why is the existence of misguided assholes worse than the flattening of a city and killing civilians?

“This city got razed to the ground” “Good, the people defending those civilians were bad people with bad tatoos”

How can you make that argument and consider yourself the good guy?

It’s ok, you’re not on reddit now.

Yup. British leftie here. I don’t like NATO, or trust it, but it has a purpose to serve, and the last few years have definitely demonstrated it. I don’t think any sane minded person could not justify Putin’s actions in Ukraine without tying themselves in knots. White NATO has unreasonably expanded against their word in recent years, raising cities to the ground is never justified, attacking civilians and constantly hitting civilian infrastructure is never justified. It’s a horrific speed run on collecting all war crimes, it seems.

Ah, so that is what you are doing. Thanks for explaining it.

Claims I am a liar, and a hypocrite.

“if you reply with more ad hominem’s I’m happy to consider your logical arguments defeated.” Thanks.

You don’t. You are aware you can block communities? You don’t need to defederate it to not see it, and you are on world, so this does not concern you, at all. Are you even fully aware of Lemmy and how it works?

I agree with you that Freedom of speech is often used as a dogwhistle to be able to be offensive for some right wingers. Ignoring the connotations of it that it has picked up recently, I fundamentally believe in the principle of it. If your full experience of it is that, maybe you don’t have a fundamental grounding in the concept outside social media.

The fact you suggest I am bad faith shows your insecurity in your argument. I’ll help you out. I’m a british leftie (democratic socialist), opposed to capitalism and cannot stand tankies (apologists for atrocities). I hope Ukraine rise up against the tyranny they are facing, and I think counties shouldn’t be buying cheap goods from China which are made with blood such as through genocide of Ugyher’s. To square the circle. Free Palestine. You’ve made clear assumptions on who I am, and oh boy, are you so so wrong.

Of course, you tried to go ad hominen, and apply false assumptions about my character because logically, you have nothing to reasonable to counter my points. Ironically, you tried to use a weak meme to backup a flimsey argument, which has been a criticism leveled at Hexbear folk. Come back if you want to debate the points, otherwise, if you reply with more ad hominem’s I’m happy to consider your logical arguments defeated.

One point I’ll add that I think needs saying is that these folk set up after CTH got banned from reddit. They were pushed into an echo chamber against their choice. It’s been years now, and they’ve got used to that echo chamber and how they behave around each other. Federating means that culture that they have been used to for years is now not the only way to operate and could be problematic for them. It will take some time to bed in, and realise low effort in joke meme’s just won’t work. They will be outside their comfort zones and it could be disconcerting, but will learn to adjust. Some quicker than others.

The point I am making is that initial impressions may not reflect the behaviour 1 month, 3 months, 6 months, 1 year or 2 years down the line. Do we believe that people should be pushed to the fringe in echo chambers, or do we believe that maybe reddit’s content policies are probably more geared to atmosphere and money than what is correct for an online discussion forum?

Perhaps some would even realise that instance isn’t right for them, and while they can interact with it, and have that freedom they feel more at home with general purpose instances.

Why would I sign up to a community I don’t agree with? I’m just not that much of a snowflake and think freedom of speech is important.

Seeing views other than your own makes you more confident in your own views and your ability to challenge them. Echo chambers existing in other social media isn’t good. I moved away from reddit and don’t want Lemmy to replicate the worst of it.

Why should everyone sign up the multiple accounts because your want to impose your views on others?

Maybe they need to educate them on what genocide is, and why it is a genocide. I’m firmly in the federate camp and I’m a British leftie, that cannot stand Putin or the CCP, but I will challenge those, like I challenge the right wingers and the atrocities they commit. We are all human, and we are all brothers and sisters. Fake political borders mean nothing if it’s used to justify atrocities against people. This include Uyghur’s, Palestinians, in Tigray, in Yemen, in Tibet, in Myanmar and the list goes on. Can we just stop screwing people who are different to our own?

Thank you for your candour, and much respect for you going against what could have been personally easy for you to do. Your adherence to your principles over your emotions and personal experiences show a really strong character.

This instance is my go to, recommended instance. You’ve shown great technical leadership and now you’re showing leadership in moderation. If people don’t want to see hexbear, they have a choice in .world or beehaw (who seem to defederate quicker than Chelsea putting in a bid for a player they’ve just heard of). The fact that .ee can differentiate gives users that freedom to choose.

I do think that those opposed to federation with hexbear are a loud minority and using the same arguments as was applied against lemmygrad and lemmy.ml. In many cases they aren’t nuanced views, just recycled lines repeated. It’s so frequently and so similar, I have wondered if it’s brigading. Is this people who were on exploding heads that are still angry and trying to get even?

Please ignore the initial hot response you’ll get, and give people time to come to terms with and accept what you’ve said. They often push and push and push until you yield, and you need to keep strong to maintain this as your choice, which it should be. Even if you do defederate later, do it on your terms and based on clear criteria of what you feel is right. Many will agree with my view, but don’t always wade in on debates. Often the ones that respond are the ones that are most emotionally agitated. I am responding to show support for you and what you have been through, and thank you for your transparency. I respect your integrity.

For disclosure: I am a leftie, but personally opposed to communism. I am opposed to authoritarianism on both sides of the political spectrum. I welcome debate with people that differ from them views. I’m already frequently immersed in debate with Americans that have a very different view of capitalism, and I can live with that. I ain’t a snowflake, and I don’t endorse cancel culture (I do feel a whiff of irony here and I think it’s important to raise that rhetoric the right often throw at at the left, because if you believe if free speech, you believe in free speech).

Well if you like .world because they defederated. Great. It gives people an actual choice. You have your instance with your desired federation policy. I have mine. Don’t take my freedoms away. Why do you have skin in the game here? I think I’ve seen hexbear content twice since I started on Lemmy during the API blackout.