Dadd Volante

You spend a lot of time at farms?

Most historians agree Jesus very likely was a real person. Possibly even an algamation of multiple people.

However, doesn’t make him the son of God or even a holy entity.

Most likely he was a highly charismatic person who had a LOT of grievances with both the church and government, and his message turned into a political movement the Romans tried to quench ala Paul and the re-writings of the text at the time.

We actually have a good chunk of knowledge on Pontius Pilate, who was a real person. A real person who would NEVER wash his hands of executing someone. He was a big fan of it.

Part of the revision was to eject the Romans from the death of Jesus, and blame the Jewish people, in order to make the movement more palatable to the Roman people. Thus, the story of Pilate “washing his hands” of the matter because he thought Jesus was in fact, a righteous man.

Jews didn’t crucify people. They stoned them to death.

Jesus had a lot of criticism of the Roman occupation and was killed by the Romans.

Decades later when mythology started to surround this human, we see the revisions really kick into high gear

Which is what I disagreed with.

That’s what you’re told it’s supposed to do.

That’s actually not what it’s there for.

Nah, it’s a revolving door for free labor.

I fail to understand where you drew the conclusion that I’m not doing any legwork

Have a fun-tastic day, friend

Ah yes! Get idea! Just completely change the system! Why didn’t WE think of that!

Good show! I’ll call everyone today and tell them that these protests are completely stupid and we have a better idea now

Looks like a clone of Battlezone, which predates this by quite a lot

A Deplorian

Cool.

I’m a socialist.

And I’m not arguing what you’re arguing.

If you need this argument, I suggest you look for someone disagreeing with you first.

Are you sure you’re arguing with the correct person?

I’m referring to the National Guard’s action, or lack of during January 6th, at the behest of Trump.

If you need to shove all those other words into my mouth to feel smart go ahead my dude. No skin off my back.

That’s the National Guard you’re thinking of

I agree. His motivations were purely political in order to keep people in line when he realized this new movement wasn’t going away any time soon.

Which is why on one hand we have Jesus calling for freedom of oppression, while Paul was telling slaves to obey their masters, even the cruel ones

Religion has always been politically motivated to control people.

You’re not dumb as fuck.

It’s a common misconception. Wasn’t even really until around the time of Queen Isabella (Might have the wrong queen as it’s pretty late here) that fair skin was considered preferable and a sign of religious purity.

Humans are a weird species.

Like I said, more Olive toned. Sorry it offends you but ancient Europeans, especially people in the Italian peninsula and Greece didn’t exactly look like the Europeans of today, being as most of them came from a different part of the world

They weren’t white people who left the middle east, they were middle eastern people who eventually turned white due to the different climate conditions of the area.

Not dumb as fuck, nuanced. History is neat like that

He existed alright but we have zero idea if he claimed to be the son of God. That was added much later after his death.

Jesus could in fact be an algamation of various men at the time who led the religious/social movement that would eventually become Christianity, and not all early versions claimed him to be the son of God. Some even claimed him to be a new God here to rescue us from the original God who was harsh, vindictive and punishing. Lots of wild shit.

So even the “he said he was the son of God” is a myth and legend.

But there definitely was a dude who was alive back then who had a LOT of complaints concerning the church and the government.

Ancient Romans weren’t even really white. More olive toned.

There aren’t any white people in the Bible.

They were changed much, much longer than 200 years.

Hell, the book of Mark, the oldest version we have (that both Mathew and Luke are copied from) has a completey different ending and vibe than what he have now

A grumpy, almost cynical Jesus who gets annoyed pretty often that people don’t listen to him or his instructions. It’s hilarious.

There are about 30 gospels that didn’t make it into the final version of the Bible, some talk about a little about it.

Most were ordered destroyed and not rediscovered until pretty recently in Egypt.

I’m not a Christian, just someone with an interest in it. There’s pretty much no doubt Jesus was someone who actually was alive, but what we have concerning his “story” could possibly be an algamation of different people who led both a religious and social revolution at the time

One theory suggests that Jesus actually has a brother who looked strikingly similar (James) enough to actually pull off pretending to be him.

Which would explain after his death why people purported to have seen him. Possibly a tactic to keep the revolution alive

None of the Gospels were written by the apostles. They didn’t even have names until much, much later. I’m talking centuries.

Life expectancy was also much shorter

Mathew and Luke are both just re-writes of Mark. Mark is the oldest out of them all, and the oldest surviving versions we have are not designated a name.

It was a marketing ploy much later to give each gospel a name of one of his apostles to give them more credibility.

Some parts of Mathew and Luke are even word for word copies from Mark, which suggests that they are revisions from a different party who decided to edit in their own ideas.

Hell, the original version of Mark actually has a different ending than the one we got in the modern Bible.

John comes much, much later which is why it’s so different than the other three. It’s Spaceballs.

None of the Gospels were written by anyone who personally knew him.

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