I’m not sure, but I think part of the problem is that the votes are “real”. Since every instance has to have the same number of up/down votes they can’t get away with fudging the numbers. I have no hard evidence that reddit does, but I suspect they do to increase engagement.

That’s the disease that may qualify you for financial compensation

It’s hard to have this argument without coming across as advocating for eugenics, but I completely agree. The fact that increasing women’s education is so strongly correlated with decreased population growth is not a coincidence.

https://wol.iza.org/articles/female-education-and-its-impact-on-fertility/long#:~:text=The correlation is strong and,children per woman to two.

The difference between a eugenicists and whatever the hell I am is that I think the solution is to educate more people, not to control their right to reproduce.

You’d break the world economy, but all debt would be erased worldwide… I can’t decide if the 3 years of Weimar republic levels of suffering for everybody is worth removing all current debt suffering. I guess you’ll go down in history at the very least

You were allowed to get register candy!?

As a robot, finding bikes in pictures is really hard, okay

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Those who don’t write history to drive are destined to repeat it.

Brother is my current second favorite major brand. They are breaking a lot more than they used to and the parts that break aren’t worth replacing. Canon is putting out alright printers that seem a bit more robust to me. But honestly if you just put in the money up front even hp isn’t total trash. To get a not trash hp will cost $400, and there’s no guarantee that it won’t get a firmware update that makes it impossible to use third party ink, but it won’t require hpsmart and make you want to kill yourself. So yeah, spend more on your printer, don’t get an hp, and if you’re not gonna spend more on your printer get a black and white laser Canon imo.

In general yeah, but let’s not blame the farmers. They’re shit on from so many directions it’s wild - they’re often locked into deals with specific companies with contracts that can sometimes cost them more money than they make. Tyson is especially notorious for this, requiring the farmers to build specific chicken houses that the farmer pays for, on land that the farmer pays for to raise chickens they’re only allowed to sell to Tyson, all while Tyson can and regularly does choose not to buy the chickens if they’re not selling enough. Farmers have managed to find themselves indentured servants on their own land.

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Actually you meant compliance, security has other random stuff. /s

If this was about data collection on users I’d agree, but the UK government is saying “remove encryption on private messages”. That only increases the ability to harvest data

I can see it going either way. I think it’s gonna come down to apple and Google getting on board. If they adopt tap to pay with this system vendors will have less incentive to accept credit card fees. If they don’t, it won’t become ubiquitous enough for any store to get away with not allowing it and consumers will look out for their own interest to keep taking the credit benefits. (I realize collective action would make that argument void, I doubt true collective action is possible in any senecio.)

That said, I cannot see a world where the banks let it get that far. This system relies on the banks cooperation and it wouldn’t be the first time they bought a law.

Fair enough. I hope you’ll consider reading it as that was intended to be a consolation before genuine critique, but you’re your own person.

He ripped you apart for the use of proverb/appeal to authority. You need to know your fallacies if you’re gonna argue. An early game mistake, but you gotta roll with the punches.

OP is interested in those topics and he’s posting them. I don’t think there is malice in their intentions. Like I said, OP also posts good news. If there was ill-intention, then all of the posts would be “misery,” and you may have a point. But that’s not the case.

This is where you could have clarified your argument. Something to the effect of “I’m not trying to make the claim that OP was being actively malicious. I’m saying that he was adding to the greater misery of all people by posting negative news that has no effect on anybody outside the family it happened to.” Remember to never use the phrase “I didn’t say” it sounds whiny and people hate it.

Personally I’d add a paragraph here where I’d go off into a short diatribe about the 24 hour news cycle being accelerated by the internet. But that’s a stylistic choice.

Again your final paragraph has conviction, which is good. But, this time you refered to an earlier argument which hurt you. You can reference the earlier paragraph, but he just claimed it didn’t hold water and your response was “yes it does”.

Consider instead: “As I said before “short quote from before”. I don’t believe that engaging with things I disagree with perpetuates them. Though, if you have a more effective way of speaking out about it, I’d love to hear it.”*

List of fallacies: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies

For proper logic you want the formal fallacy list, for better arguing you want the informal list.

*Note: “I’d love to hear it” is a great way to end a part of the argument but it must (a) be specified with which part of the argument you’re talking about and (b) be something beyond repute. It’s a very helpful tool, but used carelessly, it will cut your hand.

Hey, this is gonna come off mean, but I’m really hoping some of it will rub off and you’ll take something to heart.

You initial point wasn’t terrible. This next post lost anybody that may agree with you. Proverbs and quotes don’t win arguments, they come off as appeals to authority.

In your next paragraph you need to give some room so you don’t come off as unwilling to agree on anything. "I see where your coming from, but “this thing” rubs me the wrong way. “Explanation of why”. In contrast, if what they just said really doesn’t make sense to you: “I honestly can’t understand how you feel that way given that…”

Either way, this is also where you need to present your evidence.

Your final paragraph is great. You have conviction in your stance on the argument. Great way to end a first reply where you haven’t been convinced of anything.

Your username growing into this sentiment is exactly how I feel. I was super pissed a couple weeks ago, now it’s just meh, not my pile of shit to deal with anymore.

I mean if Lemmy collapses yeah… Otherwise this is the best place to kill time on my phone. I don’t want to be bombarded with ads and I like having a simple UI, I’m not willing to lose those things if I can find a viable alternative, but I prefer not needing to find one of I can.

I respect that a lot of people are here out of protest, I’m just here because it’s the preferable user experience given my tastes.

I’m still on reddit on the computer. The app and site both suck on mobile now, but RES is still kicking and until they kill it it’s still the best way to kill down time at work