In fairness, Obama also used Cambridge Analytica. This is not a Right or Left thing. It is a politicians vs the people thing.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/19/crisis-manager-why-is-trump-use-of-social-data-bad-and-obama-good.html

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/facebook-data-scandal-trump-election-obama-2012/

So, Israel is trying to control the Narrative? You don’t say.

I am shocked. Shocked, I tell ya.

Message: “Genocide? What Genocide. You are a genocide.”

You make it sound as if human greed as part of the human condtion will suddenly and magically disappeared under any other form of trade or political system. That is not what literal history has us shown to be the case, over, and over again.

What fucked it up was he selling to the wrong company. But we do not know why he did it. For all we know, he was tired to taking lead in the project and wanted to cash out. He was entitled to do that, or what is the option, force him to work on it just for your needs or to sell to only the company that you or I approved of? What gives us the right to force their hand?

It sucks but that is what he wanted. We both agree that it us unfortunate though. It is too bad.

No, I didn’t say that they were, but more like agreeing with the point that if Boeing was in deep financial problems that the FED could do the same because of the strategic concern to National Security if it were to be available to be sold or merge with others in the open market. No way the FED would allow it and would bail them out and a way to do that would be to purchase a physical stake in the company as a way to infuse operating funds into it.

I was agreeing with OP.

Yes, I know this. I assume that was a given. The point is that it is marketed and sold to people as an one stop shop of convenience to searching. And that tons of people believe that. Which is very dangerous. You misunderstood.

My point is not to point out whether it knows it is right or wrong. Within that context it is just an extremely complex calculator. It does not know what it saying itself.

My point was, that aside the often cooked-in bias, of how often, or the propensity of often they are wrong as a search engine. And that many people do not tend to know that.

Would it be the same as if they did the same with Boeing? If they were circling the drain? Since Boeing literally makes military planes for the US goververment, so that means that they can’t fail lest say they got bought by some Chinese or XYZ interest outside of the USA. So then those new owners would have access to highly classified designs and schematics that the military uses.

By Trump admin, do we mean the US Federal Government?

Yeah, I have some background in History and ChatGTP will be objectively wrong with some things. Then I will tell it is wrong because X, Y and Z, and then the stupid thing will come back with, “Yes, you are right, X, Y, Z were a thing because…”.

If I didn’t know that it was wrong, or if say, a student took what it said at face value, then they too would now be wrong. Literal misinformation.

Not to mention the other times it is wrong, and not just chatGTP because it will source things like Reddit. Recently Brave AI made the claim that Ironfox the Firefox fork was based on FF ESR. That is impossible since Ironfox is a fork for Android. So why was it wrong? It quoted some random guy who said that on Reddit.

It depends how gay is it? And do dinosaurs mate in packs?

The internet is open. It is not up to a site to block a country just because. Which is what happened here, and this why their law is dumb and over reaching.

The argument is more like:

“UK citizens, via the open internet could see your site, and we have now decided that we do not like it. We are not going to complain via diplomacy or via your country’s existing Laws or policing agencies, as such, you must pay us £20,000 in fines, per day, for existing because we say so. Despite you having no interests, employees or infrastructure, at all, in our country.”

The EU wants to go after encryption. By introducing means to be able to see messages in services before they are encrypted and sent. Law is currently being discussed.

Basically:

“Trust us bro, we will have the means to read your stuff but we promise to never read them or abuse it. Trust us.”

Look at bigger picture. Ignore that it is 4Chan and imagine it is a site that you actually like or care about. That is the point.

The reason they go after 4Chan is because they want to normalise this general type of censorship and hope people are gullible or biased enough that they will or would let obvious authoritarian censorship slide because they know some people dislike the site. It is manipulation and how you push the Overton Window towards general censorship.

The point is that the UK should never do that and the law is bad. Whenever you see shit like this, switch the “thing” in question to something you like and be honest to yourself and think if you would be okay with that.

If they can do it easily to things you dislike, then they can as easily do it to things you like.

The fact that is Labour, or the equivalent of the USA Democrats trying to hinder public speech in other countries via this insane laws is something worth noting. Any side can do this.

The Biden Admin tried and failed in some fronts and got censorship working in others.

The UK government is basically testing the waters of what it can get away with and also normalising the notion that they could even bother/dare to ask for this to be done in the first place.

It is about shifting the Overton Window for the normies. Especially, over time. For example, the first people to be cancelled or removed from social media years ago, like almost 10 years ago, it was done with some bad fanfare, and the people who did it, Twitter, etc… I remember said that they did it even despite some internal strife over the notion of censorship. Now, people can get cancelled on a dime and no one really cares all that much.

If you told someone 20 years ago that you should pay ca$h out of your own pocket as to get a corporate microphone that listens to you, your family, your children, constantly so it can play songs for you and tell you the weather and gives some other conveniences, 99% people would say that you would have to be fucking insane to do that. Being such a breach of damn common sense and reasonable privacy. Look at people now. Shifting the Overton Window over timr works for fun, control and profit.

Of course, if the US does not play along, then UK’s bill goes nowhere outside the UK, or maybe they will try it with weaker geopolitical countries. But governments do this type of thing all the time, under a, “We will push until someone else finally pushes back,” mentality.

If the UK really wanted to go after 4Chan, they could contact the FBI or whoever in the USA that could serve relevant via proper channels. This has always been available to them, but this is not about that, it is about censorship and control. Obviously.

This type of camera use at concerts or stadiums is decades. Although I agree with you, the biggest concern are things like Nest cameras that film random people walking on the street. Or general government surveillance.

In the UK, some guy got arrested because he refused to show his face on a street surveillance camera on principle.

For future readers: Freetube currently works. Using it right now. Invidious works too, granted some instance do not. One needs to look for ones that are currently active.

Appreciate the honesty, friend. You are awesome.

I never got into the wearables but I for sure use my phone. My phone is degoogled so I use health apps from F-Droid which help with tracking some metrics which also sync with my Nextcloud instance only, or do not request to have internet or network permissions.

I do think, like you that having some into IS useful and in that no government Left or rRght leaning should have your ior my nfo. That’s just 1984 -type nightmare fuel.

Tell that to the Apple Watch wearers.

He never said that he wants your data. Like, at all.You are just projecting. The Apple Watch BS claim is from the publication linked, not from him.

In fact, going by he actually said, you are doing exactly what he wants you to do. Use the data, if you want, to make better life and nutritional choices.

Keep doing it. You American seems to need it given your country’s general health stats.

Do you take your phone everywhere? Does it have a clock you use on it?

So, guess the only difference is that one has an armband and the other you stare at for a lot longer?

If you do not have a phone either, then hats off to you.