I’m sorry, but Objection has taken the wrong idea and run with it. If you think they’re making a great point, I’d suggest you reread with what I’ve said in mind. I do own that I’m a little hasty to judge .ml accounts from experience, but that’s about it. The rest is them assuming things with extra dressing to frame the conversation.

Tbh, I don’t even know what the fuck they’re arguing about now, and I can’t be bothered. Seriously, go take a look a that word salad and the embedded quiz of them just being an extra little argumentative gremlin.

What the fuck are you on about, Jessie?

The “trap” of correctly refuting misinformation? How generous of you!

Listen, if you’re going to be this disrespectfully disingenuous, I’d rather you stop right now because you’re already getting into the realm of obnoxious and condescending.

And in this case, you replied to someone with .ml saying “why do .ml’s…” and “y’all…” You were clearly including them

I think I very much addressed that in two different points to be rehashing this.

Because of… the truth? Does being a “known violator of human rights” make it ok for people to spread lies?

You’re saying the same thing I’ve expressed but from a different angle. We’re almost down to splitting hairs, except that you’re taking my words to an extreme. Did I or did I not add the tongue-in-cheek qualifier “accidentally” to licking boots to signify the benefit of the doubt of the people falling into this trap?

If North Korea is my “enemy,” it’s certainly a very small and distant one that’s not really worth messing with.

Not so distant if we’re going to be fighting a proxy war against them. If you think they’re a remote country not participating in world affairs, then I’ve got recent news for you.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/7/12/north-koreas-kim-voices-unconditional-support-for-russia-in-ukraine
https://www.npr.org/2025/06/16/g-s1-71531/north-korea-soldiers-russia-ukraine-war-drones

I think you’re connecting two things in my mind that were completely separate, and are using that as a springboard to jump to conclusions about my supposed standards based on one flawed premise, then about me uncritically accepting things, and also that I’m explicitly against US enemies. Brother, I’m not even American. Can I not talk about a pitfall that I often see with people defending NK, as an “inb4” if you will? Because I hope you reread the sentence that way.

If anything, my only direct comment about the person I’m replying to was the first question: Why so eager to jump in like that about a known violator of human rights that has voiced unconditional support for Russia, a country actively picking a fight with the entire West side of the world? A tyrannic, totalitarian regime is everybody’s enemy as far as I’m concerned.

But sure, maybe I’m reading the other person wrong too, and I’m unnecessarily assigning blame because of my previous experience with this exact same topic with other .ml accounts behaving that way and swarming the person commenting.

I fully support the idea that we have a problem with bias in the news and people profiting from scandals, and we also don’t need to downplay what the government does. We can push back against misinformation without accidentally bootlicking.

Why do .ml’s get so triggered with this topic? And y’all invariably paint NK as these absolute saints when we know what totalitarian regimes do and have done throughout the ages.

Por qué no los dos?

Oh, finally? It only took them a hundred years.

Probably volcanic ash lungs from all the volcanoes in the world erupting all at once due to climate change.

What kind of generational hazard would you like to have growing up, kids? :D

The mosquitoes are spreading the gay?! Holy shit, we may finally eradicate them when the GOP finds out.

Effortless? Lol! What part of being politically active on top of doing work do you find effortless? Have you ever done it, even? Because I’m sure you’ll be the one providing food, right? Or are you speaking out your butt from the comfort of your privilege?

And also curious that you think people will all organize to do nothing by doing nothing. Yeah, being demonized as lazy is going to work wonders. Like, what part of getting people on your side does not register?

Also, idk to what kind of monolithic American you’re speaking to from that high horse, but it’s quite obvious you’ve never lived in the States if that’s what you think Americans are like. Basing your shitty opinions on pure stereotypes. For shame.

And you’re suggesting that because that has worked before? For a population that’s largely living paycheck to paycheck? The thing about fascism creeping in is that you still need to go to work every day and do your little tasks so you can survive.

I’ve looked at several sites and they all focus on one thing: building a coalition. You only get that by demonstrating it openly and getting people on your side. Because despite what you believe, the protests aren’t all for the fascists, but for the other people who haven’t gotten on board yet. And you need a catalyst, with defiance and force. You do things, not stand around and wait for it to be over.

grow up bud, I’m not here to gheer you up.

Oh no, you’re actively “gheering” people down and what’s my whole beef with these damn comments.

Sure, bud. And what do you suggest people do, then?What’s your big plan for the American people? Lay down and die? Lose hope and let the fascists steamroll over them? How is that any better? I’m not hearing anything but negativity from you.

Are we? That’s news to me. I get out to vote and protest every chance I get. But I don’t see a shortage of people like you who want everyone to do just that.

Yeah, we’re relatively powerless individually, but not collectively, and you seem keen on preventing that from happening at all. There are judges overturning decisions, we got apps tracking ICE, there are mass protests happening outside, we got people helping others survive. There is a large push back, and we need more of it, not less. It’s mind-boggling that your immediate stance is why bother doing anything at all, and you seem to be pulling all the stops to justify it. If you won’t help, at least stop being a negative Nancy for those who will. We’re all doing our part, even if you’re not.

What I don’t understand is why you have to try to drag everyone else down with you, and that makes you sound like you’re already “mourning the country”. Like I said, if you’re tired, you go ahead and lie down on your own, please.

I’m sorry, who’s saying the US will go back to what it once was? If you want to lay down and die, go right ahead, but do it on your own time.

Did you know that Republicans took it upon themselves to curb mail-in voting to prepare for the election and made it as hard as possible to do so in some states? And that many ballots were discarded for the most ridiculous reasons? And that there was a record turnout at the latest election, but for some reason, electronic ballots were discarded?

You can call people lazy all you want but that doesn’t reflect reality.

If you want to go down the path of defeatism without putting up a fight, then yeah. Go fulfil your prophecy.