Only if the software is causing the accident or preventing the driver from avoiding one. Here the fault of the software was to not slow down out of the highway (which by experience must be a very specific situation because it most certainly do), the drive could have disengage autopilot or applied brakes to stop at the red light. The software specifically mentions it can’t stop at red lights and alerts the driver when it’s about to burn one. 100% of fault is the driver here.
When the accident is caused by a blatant lack of paying attention, I believe it would. Not paying attention, causing death of someone? 2 years in jail. You’re responsible of what you do.
They’re not using the product in the manner approved by the manufacturer at all. Driver is 100% responsible in this case and 23k is an absolute insult to the victims and the judicial system.
We are missing some info regarding why the penalty was so low, though. With the details from the article, the sentence doesn’t make any sense.
Human beings controlling cars are extremely dangerous. Drunk drivers, racing, going through red lights and stops, speeding, not paying attention, etc. No need for autopilot for the streets to be dangerous for pedestrians. Autopilot keeps the car in line, which is already way safer than most 100% human-controlled accidents.
And again, the driver is responsible to keep their eyes on the road, even when using cruise-control or any sort of driving assistance.
When you drive a Tesla, it’s pretty clear what autopilot is. The name is a marketing term, you can’t engage it everywhere and anytime, you’ve got to keep your hands on the wheel or it disables itself, won’t stop at stop signs and red lights, won’t do line changes, etc.
Until you drive it. You know the capabilities, you know when you can and cannot activate it, you know how often it tells you to look at the road and if you don’t prove you’ve got your hands on the wheel, it disables itself for the drive (you need to park to reactivate it). No Tesla driver thinks autopilot is more than a lane and distance keeping assistance.
Autopilot is a marketing name, that’s it.
I use it every single day. My phone just died, I have a temporary phone with Jack, but I know my next one won’t have one and I’m afraid of that change.
I’ve tried using an adapter and the quality sucks.
It has become for teens. It’s like wearing the right brand. To then, if you’re a green bubble, shame on you.
Of course it originates from the degraded experience, but at the moment, it all came down to the color of the bubble without taking into consideration the features/experience.
When you leave the city, you have your own driveway with your own charger
The kia is gorgeous! It’s incredible how they’ve improved all of their designs in the last couple of years! I love the ioniq 5 but really dislike the 6 because of its rear.
The built quality of Tesla is greatly exaggerated. Tesla is the most shorted stock so people with big pockets push really hard to make it look worse than it is. Never had any issue with mine, of all my friends with Teslas, never heard any issue except for the old models that were fixed right away in their driveway under warranty.
The whole experience of Tesla with the keyless system (you just walk to your car, open the door, sit, it adjusts the seat and wheel to you, and you just drive away, no button to start, just engage the speed)
The navigation system (reading from your calendar or suggesting based on your habits, sending an address from your phone even hours before you get into your car, selecting from favorites, voice search or typing in that huge responsive screen and it just calculates everything including charging stops based on peak usage to select one with less chance of any waiting time, no other company does that)
The scheduling to get the car ready (heated in winter, cooled in summer), it even defrosts and remove the snow from almost everywhere as it’s all glass, incredible!
The charging experience (charging stations everywhere, super reliable, like 3-5x more reliable than others, the speed of it, I almost never have to wait for it because I’m going to get food or emptying my bladder, the streaming services built in with Netflix/Disney/… always available, the games built in with controllers)
The clean inside that now makes me see all other cars as commercial airplanes, the autopilot that makes everyday drives and long road trips a complete pleasure and super relaxing, the constant updated with new features…
Of all this (and more), some other manufacturers get some stuff good, but none gets anything as spot on as Tesla, because they vertically integrate the whole stack, they know software, they know hardware, they know user experience. I can’t see myself use any other car than a Tesla until something close gets to the market.
But, I understand not willing to support Musk, just as I don’t want to support Apple or Bell.
With decent range, you can charge once or twice a week at a fast charger (while doing groceries or posting video games) or there are public chargers every couple of blocks. No need for a home charger (though it’s definitely more convenient).
At least it’s different. I can’t tell one truck from another. GMC, Ford, Ram, Chevrolet, they look exactly the same.
And why do you want to join a hate train? Love trains are better ❤️
I know it’s not a common opinion here, but there’s nothing remotely close to Tesla in terms of bang for the buck (whole experience, features, autopilot, charging infrastructure, power, range).
What are the ones you have in mind?
This is why AI is a solution, not coding everything. How does one learn how to react in these situations? Either you’ve learned from watching your parents, by taking lessons, reading the code or by simply following the others. The goal of an AI is to be able to do just that. Coding every single use case is way too complex.
I know Tesla has worked on improving emergency vehicles situations, but I don’t know how and what’s the current state.
Why are you being downvoted?
To me, autonomous vehicles are like AI (it actually is AI in the case of Tesla): the public perception is that it’s way better than it really is because it’s really good in 80% of cases. But to get to 90-95% will take many many years still. That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t use them, neither abandon them. To progress, we have to keep using them with caution. Learn the limits and work within it. Don’t start firing people to be replaced with AI because in a few months and years you’ll realize that the 20% left to improve will be hurting more than your thought. The same way you shouldn’t remove drivers just yet.
The mother still pays and is very capable of providing. 3k is not the bare minimum when it’s, by decree, the maximum allowed by the state.
It’s not because you can spend that you should and want to spend your money (I could spend more than I do, I prefer keeping some for emergencies and special projects and investments.
Texas has a child support limit, but it might not be the only reason he wants to do it the, he might have more chance to keep custody there over California.
People keep downvoting anyone who is not against Elon Musk, no need to be supportive of him, just simply stating that some arguments against him might be wrong is enough to get downvoted to hell.
This is just Reddit all over again.
The issue is not that it’s to limit to less than 3k. It’s to have a limit at to begin with (California doesn’t have any, so it might cost him dozens or hundreds of thousands a month). Plus, maybe he’s got more chances to keep custody (shared) in Texas than California.
He’s actually known for the opposite: letting his pretty young child run around, exploring, even in the SpaceX factory (always while watching at a distance). He understands that children need not to be over protected.
Of course not. Don’t trust everything you read online. People shit on Elon Musk’s stuff for internet points.
Would make more sense to do that on people in the videos. Prevent child pornography or teen nudes. Let teenagers watch porn, we did that in the 90s