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  • coyootje@lemmy.worldtoFunny@sh.itjust.worksBrutal
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    9 months ago

    Alright I’ll bite, give me some examples of good shows with multiple layers of storytelling, interesting characters and engaging story telling that were made in the last five years. And as I’ve said in another comment, I know there’s still some good ones out there (The Boys, Gen V, Blue eye samurai, Better call Saul, After life), my point is that it feels like there’s less of these while the total amount of shows has only increased over time.





  • I had a look and the current subscriber numbers for Disney+ are at 146 million, they haven’t been at 164 million since Q4 2022. So they’ve actually dropped 18 million subscribers in less than a year, which is more than 10% of their subs.

    I do agree that CEOs earn way too much money, they could get by earning much less and it would be nice if this money went to the other employees instead. However, I don’t fully agree with the statement that writers can’t afford a roof over their heads. I did some googling and the average salary for a writer in Hollywood is almost $70,000 a year. Digging a bit deeper, I found this:

    Variety also reports that for a WGA member in 2023, writer-producers earn a minimum of “$41,773 for each 60-minute script, or $28,403 for each 30-minute script.” However, staff writers are the lowest-level writers and are paid differently. In 2023, “[t]he median staff writer on a network show works 29 weeks for a wage of $131,834, while the median staff writer on a streaming show works 20 weeks for $90,920.” (source)

    So if these numbers are correct, a writer for a streaming show makes on average $90,920 for a 20 week show. If they have 2 of those shows a year, that’s a yearly salary of more than $180,000 + 12 weeks of vacation at a minimum (don’t know if they need the full 20 weeks to write the show). I know they live in an expensive part of the country but come on, you can’t say that that’s a low wage, regardless of whether you think they deserve more or not. If you look at the average salary in the entire USA (~ $60,000) they make about triple that. Hell, they make even more than double the average salary in California ($73,000) (source)





  • How do you know they’re able to? Looking at Disney as a specific case, they’ve lost over 1 billion on their movies in the past 2 years and are constantly bleeding subscribers. On top of that there’s also some persistent rumors that they got caught up in the whole FTX debacle and lost a bunch of money on that as well.

    Also, as a quick aside: what would you consider to be fair to their workers? The wages I’ve heard being mentioned sounded pretty good to me already, especially compared to other jobs.


  • I’m really curious how these strikes will end. It feels like they’ve been going on for a long time and at a bad time for the studios as well, judging by how many movies are bombing at the moment + the streaming subscriber numbers. I’m just not sure if the studios will be able to ever meet the demands the strike is asking for, it feels like they’re stuck in a downward spiral…

    Also, from what I’ve heard here and there it sounds like they have some pretty crazy demands (something about a minimum writers room size of 8 or 10?) which are going to make it hard to ever come to an agreement, especially if those writers also need to be paid in full.