You should read Exhalation by Ted Chaing if you haven’t already. It’s a quick read

This reads as very out of touch. I grew up with conservatives and am now very liberal. I am not an asshole to them but they will find anyway they can to be assholes to me. Questioning everything about me. My faith, my friends, my diet, my lifestyle, everything. They get mad when I don’t laugh at their gay joke. They get mad when I choose not to eat meat. They get mad when I choose to walk instead of drive somewhere. I’ve never spoken a word of judgement but they take my lifestyle choices as judgment of them and create strawmen in their heads that I am criticising everything they do. These are not ‘good people’. These are people that actively support a self professed aspiring dictator. They take me not eating meat as talking down to them and are willing to retaliate with fascism - this isn’t rational decision making. We need to dismantle corporate run media and the role of money in politics. Stop blaming people that are making good decisions for the problems creates by those making bad ones

Also (in theory) paying to educate those that will be voting for your government. And like, a thousand other reasons. Public school is good for society regardless of if you have kids

I think this is what a lot of people here miss. Yes many people can be productive from home, but a few are not and I could see them ruining it for everyone on some teams. If you say ‘just fire them’ you either work for a terrible company or have never been a manager. It doesn’t work like that, for good reason.

The other one I think a lot of people miss is training. I’m not worried about my senior engineers, I’m worried about my junior engineers. The juniors specifically complain about seniors not being around to train them and I worry about their career development. Obviously it depends on the role/type of work/etc, but I don’t think it’s unreasonable to expect some time in the office for senior positions that are responsible for training others. My junior staff shows up to the office voluntarily every day because they see a lot of value in it in terms of technical growth.

And before you say they can just call/message. Sure, but they won’t. Even in the office I have to go up to junior staff and only then do I get the ‘well while you’re here’. I know there’s a lot of shit managers and shit companies out there but I think blanket saying ’ any form of any level of in office work is tyranny!!!1!’ is really oversimplifying things. Also, not everyone writes code for a living, you’re in a bubble. I’ll now accept all your hate

I think there’s an argument to be .ade for it being a positive feedback loop