“Sorry, we can’t work on your machine unless your story goes viral. Just policy, you understand.”

Ooo I just found out element added support for drop-in/drop-out voice and video rooms. That’s the real killer feature they’ve been lacking I think. Will have to try it out.

Yeah, I saw that element is using jitsi under the hood for its screensharing. If that makes for a seamless user experience, that’s great. It’s been like 10 years since I last tried Jitsi, but it was not smooth.

TBH both disc and slack have their downsides, disc more so, so I’m fine if they just take the best of all worlds.

But yeah, screensharing is the deciding factor for me. As much as all my friends hate discord, we use screensharing all the time (it’s just a bit jankier getting it working on Linux).

This one is clearly made to look like slack, which is great I need to try this out. Just wish someone would make one that looks like disc. And then matrix needs screensharing support.

Does it work now? I tried it around a year ago and couldn’t get voice to work at all. It even had a message saying they were in the process of rewriting their voice streaming backend, and the legacy path may just be broken.

Discord compatible bots run on whatever server you run them on, they’re not owned or run by Discord.

It says the client is compatible with both space-bar and discord.com, so yeah, if you use it with discord, expect all the downsides of discord.

Thanks, good to know!

I think their question is, what do you mean by “secure”? Because as the saying goes for internet services: usually, if you’re not paying, you’re not the customer, you’re the product.

Agreed. Anyone who thinks it’s ok to just expose ssh on 22 to the internet has never looked at their logs. The port will be found in minutes, and be hammered by thousands of login attempts by multiple bots 24/7. Sure you can block repeat failed logins, but that list will just always be growing.

Normal for who? I wouldn’t expose SSH on 22 to the internet unless you have someone whose full time job is monitoring it for security and keeping it up to date. There are a whole lotta downsides and virtually no upsides given that more secure alternatives have almost zero overhead.

Ironic given that the term “incel” was originally coined by a woman in reference to herself.

As someone who majored in CS and is now in a software engineering position, the people in tech who come from a completely different field are always my favorite. On top of just proving people wrong about the “right” way to get into the field, they’ve been around, they know how to think about problems from other perspectives, and they’re usually better at working with other people.

Honestly, I think more people should minor in CS, or if they did their undergrad in CS, they should have to do their grad work in something else. The ability to compute things is only useful if you’re well versed in a problem worth computing an answer to, most of which lie outside of CS.

I see several Amcrest options that look like they have integrated AI object detection. Frigate on the other hand says you should get a “Google Coral Accelerator”. Do you know if Frigate (or RTSP, I guess) has a way to leverage the built in detection capabilities of a camera (assuming they are built in, and not being offloaded to the cloud)? Or am I better of looking at the “dumb” Amcrest cameras, and just assuming all processing for all cameras will happen on my Frigate hardware?

Hah I had the same thought. Trillian, though. Named after the character from HHGttG.

I feel like this is the perfect place for Right to Repair legislation: the product is broken? And it’s outside your support window? Then give customers what they need to make the fix themselves. It’s not good enough to say “meh, guess you gotta buy one of our newer chips then 🤷”

I forget the order 5 times in the middle of crimping each side, so you’re doing better than me.

Cool, then yeah, provided the streamer is still making money on their stream, then paying for a CDN would probably be a good solution.

Might have to try this out some time just to see how complicated it is to get working.

if they do, I imagine they have MORE than enough money to be able to afford a CDN or S3

As long as they’re continuing to run ads or getting enough “subscriptions” to maintain it. I don’t think any twitch streamer, no matter how big an audience they have or how much money they have, would go live just to burn through their cash.

sadly it’s the point that everyone instantly comes up with WHY folks shouldn’t use Owncast.

Yeah, that’s not the argument I’m making. Again, I love the idea of owncast, for all the reasons you gave in your last paragraph, but mostly just to give people the option to not be dependent on a for-profit corporation. But like with youtube, tiktok, and other video-based social platforms, they’re costly to run and moderate, and thus difficult to federate. I’m just trying to understand where its practical limits are right now.

streams are just bunches of files

Are they? Very short lived files I guess? Because the delay on a twitch stream can be as low as a couple of seconds. Not sure about owncast.

At what bitrate? I’m thinking about the big streamers with tens of thousands of viewers at once, most watching in 1080+.

I’m not really familiar with the capabilities of CDNs when it comes to live streams, but that could be good enough.