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Hexbears deny the genocide against Uyghurs in China

Denial of the persecution of Uyghurs in China

human rights concerns in Xinjiang

China is treating its Uyghurs well.

Uyghurs in China are being oppressed.

It’s a weird thing to lead a discussion with the term “genocide”, and then use it interchangeably with all these others terms, getting noticeably less precise the deeper into your post.

Also:

They control what their citizens can see on the Internet, monitor every communication happening through their messaging apps, and often detains, without trial, dissidents who dare to call out the government for its wrongdoings.

This is America, lol.

maybe about politics but not about a tv show or harmless interest 🤝

I (and I’m sure tons of community members from different communities) appreciate how responsive you’ve been throughout the thread, and I just want to share a thought to your reply. You said:

I think this question is bait, but I will answer in good faith with an example to hopefully drive the point home.

Posting “[hammer and sickle] 10 reasons why we need communism…” is clearly not Kremlin propaganda. Posting “[hammer and sickle] Ukraine shouldn’t even exist, long live CCCP” is clearly Kremlin propanda.

This example is like a 10/10 easy slam dunk, but I think the concern that many users have about alleging “Kremlin propaganda” is that there are an infinite amount of examples that are much harder, if not impossible, to clearly distinguish. It’s these grey areas, which are also far more common, that prompt different degrees of skepticism or uncertainty about the terminology and its application. It’s easy to apply the term to extreme and unlikely hypotheticals, but to apply it to actual conversations is a different task

Hi, I’ll try and share my 2 cents here

Is Hexbear a former left-wing “forum” now taken over by fascist trolls?

Big no. Hexbear is made up of a diverse group of people whose political views generally fall under one or more of the big umbrellas of “communism” or “socialism”. Users on hexbear also hold and exchange a wide range of views about the USSR and Russia. Despite the range of views on some issues, we are explicitly anti-capitalist and anti-fascist (and generally speaking, we use these terms mindfully; i.e., we don’t call everything we don’t like _______), and we love our trans comrades.

In OP’s post and in your reply, I can’t help but focus on the term “kremlin propaganda”. I’m not the most well-read person ever, so I have trouble understanding what they mean by the term. Whether the “Kremlin” is in reference to the USSR of old or today’s Russia is unclear - and I think that is a worthwhile distinction. Also, many hexbear users have been accused of spreading “propaganda” when posting anything remotely political, especially if it counters the prevailing narratives of the US, NATO, etc. Hopefully a more knowledgeable user can provide some clarity on what is (and isn’t) “kremlin propaganda”?

You’re right, because when Oregon became a state, they made it illegal for black people to even live in the state.

You are not your state, but your intellectual dishonesty about its racist history (among other things, and which you likely benefit from) because “slavery illegal” doesn’t portray you favourably.

Edit: and you’re also sidestepping the genocide of “Oregon’s” indigenous population, as well as other racist laws and labour practices (e.g., towards Chinese immigrants). Kind of a weird thing to be doing if you stand against extremism or exclusionary politics.