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  • I wouldn’t call it a matter of need. While I want to see Lemmy grow, I don’t think that we should rely on outrage on another platform to drive our own activity in the long term. While the number of users joining has slowed down, it certainly hasn’t halted.

    All we can do is make Lemmy as solid and enticing of a platform as possible, and leave those on Reddit to choose between supporting a platform they don’t like and leaving. We shouldn’t be responsible for forcing their hand, but we should be responsible for maintaining a healthy community here.

    I think even something like a indie video game developer hosting a forum on Lemmy instead of Reddit would do wonders for making Lemmy “mainstream”. Or even a youtuber, streamer, or some other content creator at that. But of course, it’s not something I’d go out of my way to do; just something that I think will happen in due time.




  • Honestly, a pretty valid take, all things considered. I can see why many people would find the headline outrageous, but reading through the article, I think it’s a message that a lot of people do need to hear. And I think everyone should read what OP is conveying before jumping to conclusions.

    I’ve seen people on Lemmy with mixed opinions on how Lemmy and the Fediverse should be treated. Some want to expand Lemmy and siphon off as many users from Reddit, while others want to keep the gates tight. Some want Lemmy to remain a small, niche community for enthusiasts, while others want the Fediverse to be a new paradigm for the maintstream internet.

    I agree, that Fediverse platforms built up with donations and little to no profit incentive will likely remain dwarfed compared to the tech giants that can afford to give the public the high-end, high-production social media they ultimately prefer. As OP said, that’s okay. The fediverse can remain a viable alternative, even if it doesn’t become the new #1.

    I think this is a message people should hear if they think Lemmy has the potential to outright eclipse Reddit at the moment, or think the Fediverse will take over the entirety of the internet and give the top tech companies a run for their money in doing so.




  • Multiple distros and instances are a double edged sword. It isn’t as basic as having one site like Reddit or one OS like Windows, but has the advantage of not being at the mercy of one company like Reddit Inc or Microsoft, should they push some change people don’t like. These distros/instances allow for individuals to tailor their experience however they want without having to beg the developers or admins to listen to them.

    You can’t have your cake and eat it too. If you want to avoid the shitshow happening on Reddit now, you may have to make things too complicated for the “average grandma” to understand. That’s just how shit works.

    Who the fuck cares about instances and whatnot when an average grandma just wants to make a post on knitting in a supportive community?

    To put it simply, who the fuck cares about the average grandma when we want a forum that won’t turn into Reddit in the next decade?

    At some point, I’m sick and tired of this notion that everything on the internet has to be simplified for the lowest common denominator. Lemmy isn’t hard to get a handle on. Either people learn how to use it, or they miss out. We can streamline the process as much as possible, but not to the extent of compromising on what makes federation valuable.



  • I won’t deny it is a possibility (there’s nothing about it that’s explicitly impossible), but surely if this was a widespread issue at the topmost subreddits, then there would be some leak that would have gotten out? Even recently, when that one powermod, awkwardturtle got banned, a private message between him and admins got released.

    If something like that can be leaked to the public, then with the sheer number of moderators that would be “in on it” at least one would go rogue, posting some screenshot of this being the case. Either a correspondence with other moderators, or correspondence with other interest groups or corporations. Hell, with a mass exodus of mods, the chance of at least one mod turning coat on their fellow mods is absurdly high, if this is actually widespread.

    Other people claiming the same theory isn’t valid evidence and doesn’t prove anything. If this issue is as present as you claim it is, the again, I’ll believe it if I can see some evidence of that being the case. Until then, it is by definition a conspiracy theory, and just conjecture.



  • This is absurd. Consider the idea that not every moderator is power tripping, and that there are many who manage communities because they want to see them grow, and want people to have a place to talk about a given topic.

    When I used Reddit, I was on some smaller communities, maybe a few thousand people tops, with moderators who interacted with their community, were well known among the regulars, and were great to talk to. They don’t deserve disrespect just because you want to generalize all moderators under one giant blanket stereotype.



  • I do think there is some element of abuse, (i.e. “landed gentry”) but definitely not on par with an intimate relationship. Comparable, but not anywhere near equivalent.

    I think the sunk cost can be compared to a gambling addiction. You lose money, you know the casinos are designed to make you lose money on average, yet people chase after losses all the same.

    Casinos are an investment of money, and moderation is an investment of time. A gambler could just leave the casino after suffering a loss, and a Reddit mod could leave Reddit after suffering from this blatant abuse from the admins. But with addicts, you’ll always have that itch, that voice in the back of your head telling you to stay or go back.

    Some people are more prone to these urges and can’t resist. Gambling addicts exist. It’s a serious problem, and I have a close friend who suffered from this very addiction. I’d consider many of these mods to suffer from a similar, albeit lesser form of this brand of addiction.

    Either way, I agree that it’s something that should be pitied, and disagree with the idea that “it’s not that serious.”



  • While I can see federated video channels being a thing, would advertising be possible on it, at least in the same capacity as YouTube? Because from my understanding, a lot of channels are only able to exist the way they do because it’s a career for the channel owner. They can make a living off it, and in turn, they can dedicate their full time to the channel, rather than treat it as a hobby.

    Would ads be provided by a different service? And wouldn’t we see the same thing with Reddit, where the existing community is so big that people are scared to use something that may not reach as many people? With forums, its one thing, but when the aim is to make it big and potentially make a living off of videos, that might discourage people more.