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  • throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works
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    4 days ago

    Some go as far as inventing authoritarian oligarchies

    tankies are authoritarian, their “leftism” is just a disguise to obtain power

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      3 days ago

      They are authoritarian and marxist leftists, they are not mutually exclusive, if anything they are more likely bedfellows than not, by necessity.

      You can’t have a free economy without decentralised price controls (i.e. a market) and you can’t have a market without ownership, so you will eventually end up having a control economy if you remove private ownership from the equation, and control economies are fundamentally authoritarian.

      The ultimate means of production is the person, and you don’t get to own it exclusively, even if it’s yourself.

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        I think some market-based leftists have proposed various solutions for this problem, like mandating that all companies be run as coops. But I’m still skeptical of these for a number of reasons.

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          That’s also a non-solution, all it does is make scaling a company a huge mess, and contractorship basically mandatory for any kind of expansion.

          I.e. I don’t hire anyone cause they would need to buy into the co-op, or they’d have their surplus value taken and thus be exploited, so instead everyone makes self-employed ““co-ops”” and hires eachother as contracting businesses.

          It’s literally just capitalism with really stupid centralist extra steps.