“leopards eating faces” is the other side of the coin of “owning the libs”
Sorry, my give a fuck has been cut.
Remember: we treat and help even those who smoke themselves to death while we do it. Empathy is a human quality. By gloating and being cruel, we sink to their level. Even if this women never learns her lesson, please show empathy and help of you can.
Smokers harm themselves. This person harmed everyone and wants sympathy.
I say this as a (perhaps now former) pacivist: Fuck her. I’ll focus the last bit of empathy on the people that didn’t vote to have people ripped away from their families by masked sociopaths cosplaying as police.
What about people who did not want to get vaccinated, wear masks and self-isolate? They should embrace rugged individualists’ moral hazard and agree to sign a responsibility waiver on healthcare related to COVID (or at least get deprioritized triage whenever the services were overwhelmed). It would still suck, because they’d probably get responsible people who they share a space with into hospital…but it would put the onus on them to make a good choice rather than be forced to by the big bad government.
PS: call it a pre-existing condition: “refuses to be treated by modern healthcare”.
Oh, fuck OFF. Hope she suffers immensely.
Fuck that. We aren’t all universalists, these people are scum.
Lamf just posts fake shit now? Seems counter to its stated purpose.
Yeah, that account doesn’t exist on Twitter.
Are these real posts
Nah no one would share this online, I mean sure it is happening on the global side but people aren’t THAT stupid to just scream it loud like this
no (the post exists but it’s all fake)
My first thought. Feels like bait.
i wIlL lOsE My vIsIOn iM ScarED
betcha you didn’t see that coming, bitch.
Dear maga shithead:
Just to add insult to injury: any science that might have helped cure/treat you? That is gone too.
And its going to get a lot hotter and lot more expensive for you to live, and managing climate change? That is gone as well.
You fucked us ALL by your stupid choices.
Is this for real? It looks like rage porn.
People who are satisfied that you knew better, do you feel empowered from this confirmation? Empowered enough that you feel enough in control that you can calmly await whatever will come?
I doubt it’s real. The narrative right now is that Medicaid/Medicare won’t be taken away from anyone that can work 80 hours a month, including volunteer time
Right so that’s everybody saved then! Certainly there isn’t anyone who can’t work a literal part time job, or " volunteer" for some giant multinational that has the authority to sign off on your Medicaid.
What a shit hole… And thats the positive spin…
Perhaps intentionally voting against ones own financial interests
As a joke that NO ONE thought was funny
Might not have been a sound idea
Just saying
I mean, not NO ONE. Plenty of people found it funny. They just suck and I don’t like them
Democracy doesn’t work when a significant portion of the population are stupid
Are they stupid or evil? Hard to tell these days. Maybe both, either way democracy is fucked now
Deluded and brainwashed at this point.
Are they stupid or evil? Hard to tell these days.
At scale, or in capitalism, there is no difference.
Definitely both
Between First Past the Post, voter disenfranchisement, gerrymandering and vote suppression, the USA has never tried democracy.
All humans are stupid. It’s only by collective work that anything gets done.
Democracy isn’t working because there are teams instead of policies.
Democracy works exactly as intended. Dumb voters chose dumb leader. It would be another case if dumb people were a minority, or at least didn’t flaunt their idiocy by voting for the dumbest option available.
As tempting as it is and as upset as I am with everyone who voted for Fascism (purposely or due to ignorance), these people need to be compassionately educated rather than jeered at and told “That’s what you get you fucking idiot.”
This is a moment where they might realize the value of the services that the left believes they deserve as a fellow human being. Maybe they’ll finally figure out that the propaganda they’ve been fed isn’t a reliable source of truth.
Well, I don’t know what to say to them when they actually experience the consequences of their firm belief system other than to shrug my shoulders and say well, sorry you are struggling, isn’t there some other job you can work that can pay for xyz that you voted to fuck the rest of us over for? I mean there are unintended consequences and I am sure they didn’t expect to be the people that were hurt, just those other people like you and me.
How about something like
“It sucks that your are struggling and were conned by those in power. We’re struggling too. How about we work together now and fix things for everyone? Here’s how I think we could do that…”
If this was real that would be great advice.
I agree the actual post is a bit too on the nose, but I’m honestly a bit more concerned with the comments.
Their response to your plea for compassion and understanding:
“You talk like a fag.”
They legitimately might respond better to being bullied and belittled because it is more in line with their worldview than compassion with ulterior motives.
Most of them have narcissistic tendencies and will respond poorly to mocking. Bullies always hate being bullied the most. Though it is most effective on them.
Honestly, I just don’t give a fuck. Democrats have committed national suicide by endlessly trying to appeal and pander to these conservative fuckwits. Ultimately MAGA are sick rotten people who don’t want to change, don’t want to improve themselves, and are just looking for someone to hurt. The entire core philosophy of MAGA is that other people are responsible for your shitty life, and that your life will be better if we just destroy enough minorities.
The lesson from history is that these people cannot be saved. Hell, the actual historical Nazis? Ten years after the war ended, Nazi popularity was still around where it was when Hitler came to power. The generation that brought Hitler to power never really change their views. They still viewed Germany as the innocent victim, and they still blamed the Jews for their problems. Germany was leveled, divided, and occupied, and these fuckers learned nothing. Politics only improved in Germany when the next generation came up in the shadow of the war. It took generations dying off for attitudes to really change. Hitler’s generation took their hate to their graves.
If even losing WW2 won’t change the mind of a fascist, what will? We call MAGA fascist, but we refuse to actually look at historical fascism and put MAGA in its proper context. If you think you can appeal to MAGA based on compassion or reason, then you really haven’t internalized the concept that MAGA is a fascist movement.
These people are beyond redemption. If there is a literal Hell, every last one of them is going there. They cannot be saved.
Here’s the thing… the people in power right now are trying to make new generations of Nazi fucks out of young people. Continue this insanity.
Gutting education and every fucking system we’ve tried to put in place to help people and show that things can be better. They’re being taught that it isn’t the fault of the rich man who won’t let you take a bathroom break! He’s just trying to scrape by while being robbed by the tax man! If only they’d give him a break then he could afford to pay you better. Really, it’s the fault of your fellow worker because he’s an immigrant, or your neighbor because he’s disabled, or your kid’s friend because he isn’t not masculine enough, or your wife’s fault for selfishly working instead of staying home and raising your boy right…
I dunno man. You’re probably right but… I hate these motherfuckers. It’s not a civil disagreement anymore. I fucking hate them for what they’ve done to our country.
Sure, they helped with their votes but it’s the people in power who are actually doing it. Those same same rich fucks that are also paying for propaganda and astroturfing and silencing the criticism.
I’m all out. i was all ready to do this in 2016-17 but this is their second term. they deliberately voted to take away benefits from the most unfortunate, to deliberately ruin the lives of the marginalized by denying healthcare, and tearing families apart, with parents separated from their children and keeping defenseless children in cages until they’re expelled to a land they don’t know without their families.
fuck them. they’re not just stupid, they’re spitefully evil. and they enjoy the suffering of others. i won’t shed a tear for theirs. fuck their entire existence, i hope they know nothing but misery.
I think most of them are honestly just ignorant. If you literally get your news from conservative media you’d have no idea. Hell, at this point, most traditional media is pretty bad.
Sure they might be a racist, bigot, misogynist, or all three but chances are it’s what they’ve been taught. Shit is seriously different in poor and/or rural areas.
You know, I thought that at first. Then I was talking to this coworker who lives in the country on a small farm/homestead (that is a lifestyle choice, not an actual career). And she had absolutely not one iota of compassion or empathy for those people sent to an El Salvador Prison without due process. Her view was that it just was less expensive than detaining them here. Even though I said… but, they won’t ever get out of there, there is not court or deportation back to their country" and she shrugs and says “not our problem anymore.” Heartless Snaggletooth Cunt.
It doesn’t negate the possibility that they were raised to think that way. Of course, it is always possible that they are just a Heartless Snaggletooth Cunt. I just don’t think it’s fair to assume that of all of them, or that all of them can’t be taught at least a little compassion.
They will just use those services and then vote for fascism again. I have no faith in their ability to better themselves.
Even worse, they will go ahead and deny themselves and their family in order to qualify for benefits in order to starve the (government) beast and then bitch about the legit poor who actually need the temporary help from the government.
They take pride in being worms
I hear liberal tears may work as eye drops for your vision. What’s that? No, it doesn’t work? Oh well
But but… RFK said they’d work and he’s the Secretary of Health!
Very clearly fake. Come on lemmy, don’t turn into reddit, please.
This might be fake, but I have a neighbor like this.
She’s been freaking out about groceries, the price of her meds going up, now losing her insurance.
I’ve helped her out a lot more than any orange has the last few months, yet she still spouts about how great he is. Although now with much less enthusiasm, and if you don’t put trumps name in the conversation she sort of comes back to reality a little and can realize that a bill gutting social safety nets to give the 1% a huge tax cut isn’t a fair deal.
It’s a cult.
stop helping her or anyone like her.
let them live with the consequences of their actions, at fucking least. i could give less of a shit. i don’t care, do you?
“waaaah i voted for hitler and now he’s taking away my medicine waAAAAH”
it’s like, the most narcissistic take bc these people are patently incapable of empathy or critical thinking.
i don’t care, do you?
Oh hey look! You are twinsies with Melania Trump
thatsthejoke.bmp
I Found It! 🎉
… I love it.
yeah i was gonna link the image but thought it’d be an obvious enough reference.
the difference is latinos are born that way. nazis choose to be shitty people. saying you flippantly dont care is okay in only one of these scenarios, take a guess on which.
you and the (probably fake) twitter post demonstrate the most important part of US politics:
It’s about making sure the right people suffer. Chuds vote for Trump not because they like him particularly, but because it upsets the liberal in their life. When there are consequences, it’s not the role of liberals to meet that suffering with a mutually positive vision for the future, but instead to point and go ner ner you deserve it! And the next time Democrats are in control, it’s the liberals duty to ignore all the longstanding problems and suffering that has continued through every administration, and instead point to the stock market and say But the economy is actually good dummy!
And the most important thing is that we never expect our government to do anything but dole out suffering to this or that group of people.
refusing to aid and abet fascists in my community has nothing to do with the government’s decisions on who to hurt or help, it’s a personal choice. something most americans seem to have forgotten how to do, which is the real most important part of american politics.
i don’t disagree with the sentiment, but the context you bring it up in is sussy.
A person’s actions make them what they are. If this neighbor is calling ICE on people, sure yeah they’re a fascist.
But if all this lady did was vote for Trump, that’s not really enough. That’s barley one action, from over half a year ago. Less than that, if its not even in a swing state. If people are showing regret after seeing whats been happening, fuck I don’t know maybe you grow a bigger coalition with honey than with vinegar.
Voting for Trump is plenty. Make Trumpists suffer. The warning signs were all there. He ran a tabloid style ad talking about transgender surgeries in prison. That’s how desperate they were to fearmonger. They said immigrants were eating people’s cats and dogs. And 77 million people gladly lined up to vote for that naked hatred.
Fuck Trump voters. Hope they choke on their next meal.
Yes yes, so cathartic to imagine. But that’s all it is.
Momentary catharsis. You can’t build anything out of it, cus if you did, it’s ultimately just, “round up all the bad people who disagree with me, let them die, and then everything will be better!” and oops, that’s just what Trump is doing
sorry, what else would a reddit-clone full of reddit users be? I think a lot of people here are trying hard for this place to be reddit 🤷♀️
I’m certainly one of those who hope this place will remain better than Reddit, but Reddit had a lot of good qualities for a lot of years.
Perhaps instead of generally hating on Reddit, we be more specific about the negative characteristic we don’t want. Are you specifically comolaining about fake content?
The problem is that while I recognize this is fake, it’s a satisfying circle jerk (or is that what you are specifically complaining about?), and is one of the possible answers to “why did they vote like that?”
Early Reddit was more thoughtful and the communities were smaller, Lemmy theoretically could be the same, but a big problem IMO is that all social media has blended together and people are sharing stuff they see on Twitter and Facebook on every other platform.
Social media hadn’t been so homogenized during old Reddit, and it was a lot less acceptable to cross pollinate between social media platforms.
The old Internet is just dead, in general. You would have to ban links like this that are just “other social media” on Lemmy. Otherwise, there aren’t really any walls between the communities at all.
What is fake? The original tweet sounds like a lot of people you see on interviews on TV…
Maybe it is real, but it so perfectly fit the LeopardsAteMyFace meme that I have to assume it’s fake.
It already is Reddit.
I can’t get people to understand that the people who cloned Reddit to make Lemmy didn’t make something different, they made a shitty copy. There is clearly no innovation regarding solving the fundamental underlying, unaddressed problems of democratic social media.
Yeah the back end is slightly different, but from the end user perspective, it’s a link dump filled with morons.
Until we move to a merit-based system of commenting and posting, we’re going to be going in circles looking at stupid memes and misinformation and ill-considered opinions from idiots.
Clone of reddit with a little bit of 4chan edge from feeling antisocial and anti authoritarian in here as well.
I’m not sure how merit based would work but I still think a public shame board of recent bans with their comment or post that got them banned with how long would do a lot to make it more obvious what the mods do and who is repeat offending.
I mostly just try to vote on what is relevant to the conversation but it’s a mess on all the social media sites these days.
True. Seems like nothing has changed since the BBS days, that’s why I use the language of “fundamental problems” going unsolved.
The “problem” is huge and totally non-trivial.
There was this whole phase of Lemmy where it was looking like an alternative instead of a clone.
So maybe Lemmy was almost like a clone of Schwartz-era reddit, before becoming more of a transplant of post-2014 or even Spez era reddit.
There definitely was a @UltraMAGALady account on xitter that was deleted within the last 24h, but because it was deleted I’m not able to verify this specific post. It does seem very likely that it was real, though.
Yes, the account existed, but it was brand new and had no followers (according to the same thread on reddit). Therefore it seems unlikely that the screenshotter would have randomly stumbled upon it.
Questions would be:
Was this a sincere account or satire?
Even if sincere, did that post actually exist?
It just seems a bit too much to believe someone would admit it is just for the lulz at making liberals upset. Maybe they admit to it being a bonus but to say it is the point… Particularly in a scenario where that admission very explicitly amounts to a self own…
Given the account existed and was deleted - ostensibly after going viral - we can surmise that it was not satire. We can also make an educated guess that the post did exist since the account was deleted after going viral.
For the last part, if you don’t personally have thousands of firsthand experiential anecdotes of encountering people exactly like that, I genuinely envy you and your hygge bubble. A staggering number of American Republicans make “owning the libs” their whole personality. This is a natural, inevitable outcome of ur-fascism’s enemy creation propaganda pipeline.
Nothing ever happens
Whether or not this particular one is fake, I guarantee you there are thousands of people just like this.
Yup, anyone saying it’s fake is missing that there are many people that think this way.
Maybe you shouldnt engage with the post then, since thats why this garbage gets posted in the first place. If the engagement numbers dropped for these types of posts they’d stop posting them, but here it is with a thousand up votes a d many comments. Its almost like the post is deliberately controversial or something…
Yup. Most are but they’re entertaining.
“sorry not sorry”. enjoy being blind fucknut
Some people exist to serve as an example to others…
Blindness seems like a fitting punishment for someone who willfully ignored what was happening in front of them.
