• NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip
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    16 hours ago

    survival horror action game

    Yeah, no.

    Hopefully it is just a case of buzz words and not an actual genre description. But the fundamental nature of the Cenobytes is that you can’t fight back against them. All you can really do is endure the psychological harm (because you aren’t enduring the physical) while sacrificing others and trying an end run to the lament configuration.

    Survival Horror/Action inherently involves fighting back. And that undermines so much of what makes Hellraiser Hellraiser (even in a lot of the horrible ones).

    I DO think a point and click adventure game would work perfectly. I would… probably not play an Alien Isolation but I do think that would also be a fit (I got my fill of hiding in lockers back with Penumbra/Amnesia). But the moment we have ANY way of fighting back… meh.

    • 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮 @pawb.social
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      Just because you can’t kill them doesn’t mean you can’t fight back against them. Resident Evil 3 had the big dude that you couldn’t usually kill chasing you the whole game. Same with 9 and the giant vampire mommy that AFAIK, you can’t kill at all except maybe in the finale. But you can slow them down, and there are things other than those to fight. Even Alien Isolation had the flamethrower to make the xeno go away for a bit, but not forever.

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      You’re right for the wrong reasons. It wouldn’t be survival horror because it would be the worst, most vile horror dating sim imaginable. Then Steam would delist it because payment processors caved into a small group of Australian moral crusading nutcases.

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      Haven’t there been many Cthulu Mythos games? I’m sure they’re able to find veins of storytelling that have some big reveals, but don’t necessarily conclude with successfully defeating the Cenobites.

      There could also be secondary antagonists tangentially related to them, right? I thought the antagonist for most of the first Hellraiser was some other kind of disciple that got cast out.

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      14 hours ago

      The trailer makes it seem like there will be “lesser” demons or creatures we may fight, but if a Cenobite knows we’re there, we’re fucked.

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        Which is a problem the movies themselves increasingly did by having cannon fodder cenobites to add action or a sense of hope.

        Hellraiser, at its best, is about despair and helplessness where the only way out is to destroy your own humanity.

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    Only shows cutscenes, no actual gameplay. Can’t tell if you’re playing the people or the Cenobytes… Not impressed.

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      21 hours ago

      single-player survival horror action game

      It’d be really interesting if you played as the Cenobytes.

      I do agree an all cutscene trailer tells use basically nothing. Does some good for tone setting though, I suppose.

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    1 day ago

    Mmm this may be one of the few straight-up horror games that I’m genuinely excited to play. It looks fucked in all the right ways.

    I hope Doug Bradley has a cameo of some kind. His voice is too iconic for Pinhead imo.

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        14 hours ago

        I mean if you like the weird shit, I’d say continue on. They’re fun slasher movies, and the reboot from a couple years ago was pretty good imo; the ending was pretty fucked.

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          I wasn’t a big fan of horror movies until later in life, mostly because my parents wouldn’t allow slasher type films.

          So I ran through the saga. I enjoyed them, though I wouldn’t call them art, lol.

          I agree, the reboot actually got me more interested in the lore, which I think Barker excels at based on his games Undying and Jericho.

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    I’m not even that big on horror games but this looks fuckin awesome, can’t wait for it to come out!

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    Oh hell yes. It’s got to be better than the F13 game.

    (Disclosure: I liked the F13 game in single player bot mode)