as the title says, all of these frontends are dead now, which means that its impossible to view any of the datat that exists on these sites if we dont own an account

is that it? should we just quit using these sites or what?

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    We don’t need reddit, reddit needs us. Just move on and be done with the platform. Just create new habits with Lemmy and reddit should slowly fade away from your mind. If we give alternatives some time, I’m sure great content will emerge and crazy shit like the three days no poop challenge will happen more over time.

    I am personally very optimistic.

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    Because I don’t want to feed your addiction I will not let you know which 3rd party apps will work because FUCK SPEZ nobody should ever go back lol.

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      Yeah unironically this. Mental outlaw did a good video on this subject recently, about Reddit, and he spoke about Chad web scrapers

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    If I want to still be able to look at the works of my favorite artists, photographers and animators, I will unfortunately have to use it to some extent. Some of them also post on other platforms like pixiv, which allows you to look at content without an account. If there is any other way to look at their content, I do, but some are Twitter exclusive unfortunately.

    People will naturally follow their favorite artists and will want to interact with them. If you could somehow convince the creators to post on a free and open alternative, I would not have any problem completely deleting my Twitter account.

    In the case of Reddit, I would delete my Reddit account if I knew that all the rock hounders, bug identifiers, mineral photographers and crochet enthusiasts were here.

    So, what now? If you are able to, create content that people are interested in and post in exclusively on free and open alternatives. If you have any useful skills or know-how, help people on free and open alternatives with their questions and problems. That is how I got into Twitter and Reddit at least. Maybe it will work for others too.

    And most importantly: be nice. Don’t downvote people’s comments and posts for no reason. Don’t leave toxic comments. Say Thank you, give people compliments, provide constructive criticism and try to be helpful.

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      that’s true, I was thinking about self hosting floss alternatives to popular social media sites and make them publicly available for everyone in my country to use, but then I forgot that I dont have money for this

      maybe I can show up to a convention later?

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    should’ve stopped a long time ago. I’ve been off everything but reddit for years and now I’m here.

    we need to respond to things fucking us over quicker. Blizzard, the public transit system in America, Reddit, Twitter, Blizzard, the United States.

    we give these cunts too much wiggle room

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      With things like Blizzard it’s “easy”. I don’t NEED Diablo 4. I’d like it, but i’m not going to get it out of principle. But Reddit is different. I don’t need it as a social media platform or to post myself, but for me, a huge portion of relevant online search results are from reddit. I pretty much run into tech and non-tech issues on a daily basis that are only documented or solved by a years old reddit post. And i’m pretty sad to see that go. Not the social part of reddit, but having so much condensed knowledge in a single place.

      And while lemmy is nice it isn’t an alternative until i can move instances and subscribe to communities without having a pending status for weeks. You also can’t search online for lemmy because of motörhead and because every instance names itself.

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        I would argue reddit shouldn’t have been used for tech stuff and troubleshooting as much as it was. Neither should discord for that matter.

        For this purpose wikis and old-school forums worked well. I hope we go more back to that.

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      I also just quit youtube. Don’t use it much so now I’m down to streaming services that won’t spam me or are actually worth paying for. There’s nothing on YouTube I’d pay to watch. Sorry viva la dirt league, not even you. If they had their own streaming service maybe!

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        So, which are worth paying for? Netflix hasn’t done a good show for me in 2 or 3 years. Prime Videos Interface, search and selection sucks, Paramount has basically only Star Trek for me. Disney plus comes pretty close for me. I love Star Wars and Marvel, and with a child in the house, they have something for everyone. But i’d argue Disney is a morally worse company than google or reddit.

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    We should strive to use/promote privacy-friendly and foss alternatives ( fediverse in general ) like Mastodon or Lemmy.

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      Yes unfortunately Twitter did that yesterday. Hopefully they will be able to scrape the content somehow anyway (apparently Twitter still allows googlebot to crawl their Tweets, so maybe Nitter will just disguise as a googlebot)

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        I don’t think so. Elon posted that that step was only necessary because of heavy scraping for AI purposes. Once they got that sorted out, tweets should be public again and guess Bitter will start working again

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          Elon posted

          I mean, sure, but: why should we believe anything he says?

          The reality on the ground seems to be that Elon just tweets whatever thought enters his mind, and in a best case scenario, people then run around and scramble to make his tweets come true.

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    Youtube is also blocking invidious and Piped. Frontends are no end solution. The only solution can be the fediverse. But you can use these services with a good ad blocker

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      NewPipe (on Piped technology) is working fine here? As long as YT isn’t behind a login they will keep working. If they do put it behind login, tbf they’ll likely find way around it again sooner or later.

      I agree that front-ends are always in an endless fight against these Big Tech solutions. But for content not available on other platforms it’s an necesity and a better solution than simply an adblocker. And sadly it’ll take a long time before content moves away, Average Joe isn’t really worried about Google as much as they are about the cons of moving away from YT.

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        Wie are really lucky newpipe still works, but I think Google will do more. I expect, that Newpipe, Aurora and all other YouTube Frontends are breaking.

        If this would happen, the only solution I see to still access these services ist to use Mullvad Browser with u blog origin. And of course you need a goof VPN like mullvad

        But in the end you can’t escape it

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          but I think Google will do more. They’ve been trying to break it for ages. It’s one of those never ending fights. Doubt it’ll end soon.

          Even if it does, then we’re at a point that “just use a good browser and uBlock Origin” also won’t cut it. Honestly, those will break much sooner than dedicated projects that are much more sophisticated in getting around YT-stuff. As soon as they put a login requirement on the site, which is needed to break apps like NewPipe, the browser + uBlock idea already won’t cut it anymore, no matter if you got a VPN ot not.

          As for Aurora, as long as Average Joe still uses Google Play without a care I’m not too worried about it. People use AdBlock for the ease, but using Aurora doesnt’t give ease. It’s only the tiny group of privacy people interested in it, which is a much smaller demographic that’ll be hard to convert to Google services. If they break Aurora, the amount of non-playstore requests to developers is going to to pump up and as long as stuff like APKMirror and apk downloads from vendors still exist people will download by hand over using the Play Store. It’s a lot of trouble that likely just leads people further away from Google.

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    Teddit doesn’t hold any data. It’s “data” was reddit. It’s developers think that when you use the free key for 60 requests per second, that it will probably be enough.

    Libreddit is trying to use the private Reddit API . Which is currently being used by the official Reddit app.

    Running Teddit using a free key seems fairly usable, as long as you are self hosting an instance. Libreddits’s approach tries to bring back the old situation

    Projects will deviate and find ways to be useful again.

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      Yes; I highly doubt any of these projects are truly “dead”, they just need to figure out the best ways to scrape these services.

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      Libreddit is trying to use the private Reddit API . Which is currently being used by the official Reddit app.

      How is this possible? Doesn’t Reddit restrict their private API behind some sort of key/token?

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        I have no idea, they probably found a way to simulate the mobile app during the authentication fase.