Yesterday I had argument with Cowbee about this here. This seems like hijack of word “base” to support their propaganda like many others Words Which Defy Dictionaries. Base, is always ideology. Sure their so called “base” influence upper ones, but it is not the base. Base is something core, without it the thing cannot function. can human live without ideology? Without right or wrong?

It make sense to base our self on other ideologies but not on ideology of means of production or ownership first.

If you think this is misunderstanding, please explain your argument in simple language without using communist jargons if possible.

I suspect hardcore communists doesn’t want to admit flaws instead they blow up dust of words to cover. I also suspect that i can be wrong or half understood the argument or using wrong definition of terms, that’s why i am posting here

  • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
    42·
    23 hours ago

    Just to clarify, are you calling me a fascist/14 yo/etc? I’m a communist, I organize in real life, I’ve read more than wikipedia, and I’m a working adult. None of what I said that OP is quoting is particularly out of the norm for the Marxist understanding of base and superstructure, and it was all in good faith that I responded, I even clarified more over here. OP seems to be anti-union, anti-safety net, etc and came into a months old comment chain, and I still gave them a clear and coherent overview without copying and pasting dozens of Marx and Engels quotes to make my point.

    • LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      6·
      22 hours ago

      No? I wasn’t responding to you lol wtf, re-read the thread, I’m responding to the same guy you responded to, who said:

      "The difference between Nazis and communists is that one of them lost a world war. You should not give them the time of day. "

      • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
        6·
        21 hours ago

        I also think you don’t actually have to pretend like Nazis and communists are equal or even close just to be able to criticize the imperialism and many mistakes and general dysfunction of the USSR, tankies and general bad faith argumentation like in OP probably done by a random putlerist fascist russian shill/bot or like a 14 year old who skimmed a wikipedia info box on dialectics once.

        Thought you meant the argumentation done in the OP being me, the one OP referenced by name and in the screenshot. Sorry for the confusion, thanks for clearing it up!