Ex-Tesla employee reveals shocking details on worker conditions: ‘You get fired on the spot.’::Tesla CEO Elon Musk’s ‘ultra hardcore’ work culture is revealed to have led to long hours, unsafe conditions, and harassment for employees.

  • ∟⊔⊤∦∣≶@lemmy.nz
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    11 months ago

    How is this legal? Does the US have zero employee protection regulation?

    If this happened in NZ, the business owner would be put through the ringer and it would be front page news (it’s been front page plenty here) for unfair dismissal.

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      11 months ago

      The laws are there, sure. But if you become a corporate “whistle blower” you’re not likely to get a job again. And the company will just drown the accusations in fines and litigation and nothing changes because we’re poor and solo, because we’re not unionized because if we try we get fired (again, illegally).

      Sigh.

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          11 months ago

          Yup. But they don’t work. Same problems. They’ll get dog piled by litigation, threats, and investigations. meanwhile said whistle blower is unemployed and getting raked through the mud. Not much protection going on.

    • gila@lemm.ee
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      11 months ago

      They have employment rules, but I believe as they employee your main recourse would be to sue them. They don’t have a government entity like Employment New Zealand to hold the employer to account on the employee’s behalf.

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        11 months ago

        They have employment rules, but I believe as they employee your main recourse would be to sue them.

        No, you would file a complaint with the Department of Labor. https://www.worker.gov/actions-whd-claim/

        They don’t have a government entity like Employment New Zealand to hold the employer to account on the employee’s behalf.

        You might do a little more research next time. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Department_of_Labor
        https://www.dol.gov/

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          11 months ago

          The DoL doesn’t have anything to do with unfair dismissal such as is reported in this case. In fact, a large proportion of US work contracts explicitly allow the employer to terminate the contract for any reason with no notice.

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            11 months ago

            That is not because the United States does not have a government entity to hold employers accountable on the behalf of the employees, but because dismissal such as is reported in this case would not be illegal at the federal level.

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              11 months ago

              There are employment rules though, right? Aside from wage disputes I mean, which in terms of law are more related to contract execution than employment rules. For cases specifically to do with employment rules, who enforces the rule? In other rich western countries exist entities like Employment New Zealand and Fair Work Australia to manage this as a primary function. The US doesn’t have one.

              • 30mag@lemmy.world
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                11 months ago

                For cases specifically to do with employment rules, who enforces the rule?

                It depends on the rule. For example, The Family and Medical Leave Act of 1993 and Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938 are enforced by The Wage and Hour Division of the United States Department of Labor. Rules relating to workplace health and safety are enforced by the Occupational Safety and Health Administration.

    • radiohead37@lemmy.world
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      11 months ago

      Most of the states have at-will laws. Meaning companies can fire people without cause as they please.