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Oh no. Another thing to learn.
you probably don’t need to learn it, Deno was a massive upgrade over Node and it didn’t matter, not convinced this will be any different.
IMO, deno’s approach was bad as it was reinventing the wheel, so one had to relearn. And then they brought package.json which they said they wouldn’t. This again got people to unlearn and relearn things.
Bun, on the other hand, acts like what Typescript is to Javascript. It’s just feels like superset of Node, instead of completely different tool.
I expect Bun will get more success than Deno.
Makes sense. Deno was created by the same person that created node. They’re both going to be terrible, especially when they ignore everything ever discovered in software engineering about writing good code, good frameworks, good languages, etc.
deno was also created by one of the guys who created node.
huh? that’s what I said.
sorry, brainfart. I read “bun is created as the same who created node” 🤦🏻♂️
gotcha. I don’t think bun is created by the same person that created node. deno is, and has just as bad a design as node as a result. it honestly baffling that people trust someone to write a language who failed so badly to write a language that they set back the entire world for decades to come.
It’s almost 100% compatible with node but faster. A lot faster. So no need to learn anything but few cli commands. For example
bun run devinstead ofnpm run dev.Edit: website
Alias npm bun level compatibility?
Bun is designed as a drop-in replacement for Node.js
It does seem so!
I’m trying to get my work to switch to bun but we have packages in a private AWS codeartifact repo. Does it support this? I tried to use it with our npmrc file but it couldn’t install those packages.
This answers my question https://bun.sh/docs/install/registries
This is the first I’ve heard of this. Might be worth checking out.
God my thoughts exactly. Probably super cool, but still I just can’t keep up
Compatible with node
This will be last 🥲
This will generate lots of fun moments when developers use Bun and the runtime environment is stuck at Node for some reason. For instance, because of AWS Lambda.
I’m pretty sure someone will make a custom layer.
Can’t you deploy Docker images to Lambda now? Granted, startup times will probably be slower than native Node.
My favorite pastime is arguing about which JavaScript runtime is faster while I wait for my app to finish running O(n^n) table scans of my database.
The owner of bun is a dick hole, I hope it fades as fast as deno did
Can you provide some context? Googled oven/Jarred Sumner a bit but only got the usual startup VC trash communication and lackluster interviews…
They deleted their tweet (or I can’t find it because I refuse to sign into Twitter on my phone) but when oven first started hiring they were extremely condescending towards the idea of work life balance. It’s a startup perpetuating the idea that startup employees need to cut themselves off from their lives and focus on work for minimal benefits - you know, until it “takes off”.
It caused quite a stir when it was posted, I’m surprised it’s so forgotten now.
Thanks. Much appreciated.
Why did deno fade?
Deno is still around and is even actively used, you have to use it if you want to write a Supabase edge function, for example. But it’s not used in mainstream development from what I can tell, it just never took off because it’s a very large idea shift from Node that requires a decent sized learning curve to figure out. The benefits are also not enough that it’s worth re-learning how to write server-side JavaScript. If you wanna right server-side JavaScript, Node is good enough that it’s not worth re-learning.
Still though, Deno is fairly obscure from a mainstream development perspective, and that’s what I wish on Bun.
I’m looking at it with optimism for a new build tool. I just need Sass/CSS compilation and I’ll give it a whirl.
It’s on the roadmap
