Weird racist posts from dank memes keeps showing up in my feed. Are we doing anything to prevent becoming Voat 2.0? We’re really concerned about Threads and that’s a big unknown. Weird racists already destroyed the last Reddit escape are we concerned about that? Like are we going to make a policy of defederating hate groups?
I’m pretty confident this community is using fake accounts since every post starts at ~20 and then gets down voted after it’s been forced into a bunch of people’s feed.
If not that’s fine I guess but does anyone have a suggestion for somewhere that will?
I’m guessing your instance admins didn’t defederate from exploding-heads.com. You can either ask your admin to defederate, or move to an instance that has defederated them.
Fuckin shit, time to find a new server.
Don’t join lemmy.world or lemmy.blahaj.zone, they just got hacked!
Edit: The hack seems to have been resolved, I’d personally still use caution when visiting.
Do you have a list of other servers to defederate from to keep similar content out?
Other than what I’ve already mentioned, theres lemmygrad.ml (an authoritarian-left extremist instance), I don’t know of any other prominent ones. There are many spam instances, but thoses are like a 50 item long list.
Authoritarian is antithetical to the entire left side of the political spectrum. Tankies are far right extremists.
Left politics with right wing tactics. Or a “Red Fascist”.
With the myth that the USSR was a communist utopia rather than authoritarian rule by the wealthy elites.
You can see what instances any given instance is federated or de-federated with by going to/ instances.
So if you want to see what other instances lemm.ee is federated with, you can go to http://lemm.ee/instances.
If you want to see the same thing for Lemmy.world, you can go to http://lemmy.world/instances
Thank you!!
Cant you just block the offending subs instead of the whole instance? Except for two subs, it’s pretty tame over here.
“This food has dog shit in it”
"Can’t you just eat around it?“
Exactly I’m not going to hangout in the bar that’s cool with Nazis just because they’re not at my table
It’s more like, “I’m not going to hang out in this town because there is a club I don’t like over on the other side of the city”
Pretty sure y’alls were/are on reddit. Plenty of turds you’re eating aroud there…
I also don’t want to live in a town with a Nazi club. Yes
Fair to you then. Unfortunatly, every town of meaningful size will have tons of people you disagree with. Best of luck!
i clicked that link, and know Ihave cancer, thanks a lot.
Your current instance (lemm.ee) is still federated with exploding-heads.com (nazis) and lemmygrad.ml (tankies). If you want to have a better experience, you need to talk to your admins, and considering switching to an instance that fits your philosophy.
Ok yeah that’s what I thought. And that’s kinda the purpose of my post being on meta lemm.ee to see what the community/admin stance is on it. Thanks!
Of all the people that migrated from reddit to voat, quite a lot were from the banned subs like fatpeoplehate. That means the userbase is naturally more toxic.
Of all the people that migrated to lemmy, there isn’t the same bias. I don’t think we need to worry that much.
And even if there is… I think the main benefit of this architecture is that it’s easy to split off and regulate instances with problematic content. You choose your instance. And with that you choose your admins.
While there is a bias from those splitting off from reddit to lemmy, it’s a bias towards tech inclined people rather than toxic people. So yeah, unlikely to be an issue.
this was all in 2015. seems like only a few years ago…
Like are we going to make a policy of defederating hate groups?
Hey! First of all, here is our federation policy. In short, it is not a goal for lemm.ee to curate content from other instances, simply because this would be a massive effort for very little benefit. There are tens of thousands of instances out there, and that number is constantly increasing. Meanwhile, problematic content from the vast majority of those instances very rarely reaches lemm.ee - even for a big instance which we have defederated already, burggit.moe, there were only a couple of problematic posts that I had to purge from lemm.ee at the time I defederated them.
If I commited to policing other instances outside of lemm.ee, it would leave very little time for me to do much more beneficial things, such as working on Lemmy code. Not to mention, I’m not really interested in going out to these toxic instances and reading what they post there. So I am relying on our users - if a lot of reports about rule breaking on lemm.ee end up being caused by users of a single instance, then I would consider that a strong signal to defederate that instance. Similarly, if content that is against lemm.ee rules starts creeping in to our “all” feed from a specific instance, I would also consider that a strong reason to defederate an instance.
Here on lemm.ee, we have simple rules. One of those rules is no bigotry. So far, all users reported for posting bigoted content on lemm.ee have been banned. Most of these users have been local lemm.ee users, with only a few exceptions. I have not noticed any trends with any one specific instance causing a lot of problems so far.
Weird racist posts from dank memes keeps showing up in my feed.
Can you please point out specific posts that have shown up in your feed? I personally am on lemm.ee a lot, and have not managed to catch anything like that in any of my feeds. I am asking users to please notify me of such things directly with concrete examples so I can take action.
Sorry Jerboa seems to have a bug that made me think this was never posted. Look at dank memes@exploding-heads.com. I might be seeing it because it’s vote manipulation that only works when the user activity is low enough but I was regularly seeing posts from a user literally named ihatetroons.
No it’s exploding heads, they’re a shithole voat instance
I chose this instance due to the noticeably better performance at the time which seems to ultimately boil down to you having your shit together running the server. However, I do also prefer this hands off approach to federation.
For those who have so much trouble with content, I recommend moving to beehaw which I understand to be a safe space.
Yeah lets not do voat here. The last thing i want is to have a Sub community that’s “fighting the sjws” again by spouting hateful shit.
Firstly, like everyone else is saying, petition your instance admin to defederate - any instance that allows that sort of content isn’t somewhere you want to be affiliated with.
You can also block the user posting stuff - I’ve had to do this with the weird anti-trans spam on that dankmemes community. Depending on what you are using you may or may not be able to do this, but the default lemmy web client will let you.
I haven’t tried too many apps, but so far wefwef seems to be the only one where you’re unable to block users or communities.
Nice username! ;)
Wefwef (Voyager) allows blocking communities. Go to the community main page and it’s in the … list at the top.
I must have missed it!
I’ve blocked a lot of communities individually, however it seems this instance is still federated with the exploding-heads right wing hate machine.
@sunaurus@lemm.ee , please defederate from the Nazi instance.
To be clear we’re talking about exploding heads. The one you keep not responding about
Oh wow. I forgot all about Voat. Let’s not do that again please.
Was interesting to se fascist, nazis and all kind of weirdos go full mask off.
id rather we dont, im specifically on lemm.ee because it keeps defederation to a minimum and there are plenty of instances that offer a more curated experience
Yeah I’m okay with defederation of threads, but for actual communities I’d rather decide on my own. Unless things get out of hand somewhere of course.
It seems relatively easy to block communities you don’t want to see. That should be good enough in most situations.
God I forgot Voat existed. I don’t see the alt-right absolutely dominating lemmy like it did Voat but stranger things have happened
Is it from a specific instance?
Voat was a real-world lesson on the paradox of tolerance, and how hate speech rots communities. Instances that federate with hate mobs encourage their behaviour and give them the audiences they crave. While my account is not hosted on this instance I nonetheless implore the admins of lemm.ee not to let hatemongers prey on their users.
I wouldn’t worry about it too much, Lemmy is founded on communist ideology. For the alt-right, using CoMmUnIsT sOfTwArE is like a vampire trying to walk into a church.
Lemmy.ml is likely to be on full-alert already, I can expect hate-speech will get ratio’d
You underestimate Conservative’s level of hypocrisy
My dude, they’re legendary for their industrial amounts of cognitive dissonance xD
What else do you want? This is like Reddit. I’m sure we will get quickly banned if I made some kind offensive joke.
The rules are quite restrictive already: https://join-lemmy.org/docs/code_of_conduct.html
We’ll, they could always be isolated from the main fediverse network. Ultimately it will be good moderation on your instance that is the deciding factor. If another instance won’t moderate or has a content policy that allows it to collect offensive material, then your instance will have to defederate.
I’m sure there will be a few distasteful Lemmy instances out there that have been defederated from all mainstream instances, but I guess that’s OK, because they can do what they want in their own space.
That’s one thing I really like about Lemmy. You can’t forcibly silence people* you can only disconnect/isolate them. (*unless you own their instance).
So we should focus on maintaining the health of the main fediverse network (the interoperability between mainstream instances that are responsibly moderated).
