• PeteWheeler@lemmy.world
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    While it is true that courts don’t really stop him. This still shows that not everyone bends the knee to him. It shows that he doesn’t have complete total support. And, most importantly, there are some politicians that do have a spine. Even if their intentions are misplaced or malicious, I’ll take anything to stop Trump. Can’t comply in advance.

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    In reality, NCAA President Charlie Baker recently testified that fewer than 10 transgender athletes are currently participating among the 510,000 student-athletes in NCAA programs.

    This is the context that republicans completely ignore. .002% of college athletes are trans. That’s barely even a rounding error.

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      My dad was going off about trans kids in sports so I asked him…is this really how you want your tax dollars spent? Fightings to keep a handful of kids from playing college sports?

      “Yeah, well I, uh, it’s just not fair to the other athletes!”

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        That’s an excellent way to confront that issue! Americans might not be able to interact with empathy or sympathy but we cannot stand feeling dumb😂

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          Watch out, some just double-down when they feel dumb.

          There’s a reason that movement is so anti-intellectual and don’t care for facts.

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          I love my dad but I don’t engage with him seriously about politics anymore. Specific facts don’t matter, he only cares about “the big picture”…so instead of of arguing, I give him the even bigger picture: none of this shit matters. It’s all a distraction while they rob us blind.

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            The important part is that people in a democracy have to be held responsible. If and when the fascists of this world are finally taken down, we need to make the people pay who put them in power.

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                You can let him feel them now. Join the counter movement and learn how to help rid the world from fascism through talking, protesting, writing. Those are the weapons of a democracy.

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        I’m sure your dad was really concerned about fairness in women’s athletics before the culture wars arrived, right?

        Such a disingenuous stance from so many people that I’d bet would have a hard time naming five female athletes.

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      In particular, if it’s 10 kids, you can absolutely look at each individual kid and find out 1) are they actually even good at sports? and 2) what’s their motivation for sport?

      I would bet money that all ten of them are mediocre and really just want to live their lives like a normal kid.

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      Isn’t that the point though, that it affects the 99%?

      If half are in each division, and if a few athletes out of 250,000 all perform in the top 1% or better because they switched to a protected division displacing 99%+ who don’t have arguable eligibility for that protected division…

      I don’t know if that’s the statistic, but isn’t that the general concept? That it’s unfair to a huge number of other athletes that lose?

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        Are those fewer than 10 trans athletes competing in the NCAA performing in the top 1% or better? Should all trans athletes suffer because Riley Gaines tied for 5th place with a trans woman once?

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          Thanks, for any of this argument to hold any water it has to be demonstrated that trans athletes have any sort of advantage.

          This is reminding me of something I just watched, the 30 for 30 about Oscar Pistorius. One of the paraathletes they interviewed commented on how welcoming and excited everyone was when Oscar started competing outside of the paraathletic events. It was only once he demonstrated that he could beat “able bodied” athletes that people started getting pissy. This guy also pointed out the disadvantages that running prosthetics introduce, but people only focus on the fact that the running prosthetics conserve momentum better than human ankles do.

          At the end of the day, most every sport isn’t fair. You need time, money, luck, the right coaches, mentors, I could go on and on.

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            So true. Trans athletes are allowed to succeed, so it should not change anything even if they are, but broadly speaking, this is not what’s happening. The state of Georgia just banned trans women from women’s sports through high school, there are currently 0 known athletes who precipitated this ban. The Scottish FA just banned trans women from women’s leagues, this affects 1 woman playing recreationally. The women’s pro rugby union in the United States, WER, has (I’m pretty sure) only 1 trans woman athlete, her team is currently in last place and has yet to win a game.

            Trans women are women, trans men are men. They come in all shapes and sizes and varieties and they deserve inclusion no matter their unique form.

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          That’s the question I posed even though 8 people currently are illiterate and downvoted

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            Well, the answer is no, transgender athletes are not dominating competitions. Even if they were, trans athletes are allowed to succeed, but there’s no evidence to indicate that this is happening regardless.

            I didn’t downvote your comment, but I don’t blame people for reading it as coming from a disingenuous place. Big “I’m just asking questions” vibes.

      • erin (she/her)@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        That makes the assumption that trans athletes consistently outperform cis athletes, which there isn’t evidence of. A trans person winning something does not mean all trans people will always have an advantage, which is the assumption conservatives make. What place does a trans person need to place for it to be okay? Are trans people ever allowed to win? Any time a trans person places above any cis person, it’s used as evidence of unfairness, even though that makes no sense.

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        John Oliver did a piece on it a while ago, which gives a pretty good overview of the situation: https://tube.fede.re/videos/watch/16650f54-3c69-4d81-b7ae-17f0a3889dbd

        As a German, I feel obliged to tell you, though, that yes, it does only concern 1%, or probably rather even 0.1%, of the population, because that is the fascist playbook. You pick out a minority and declare them the enemy, so you don’t have to solve real problems. Don’t get me wrong, there is a legitimate conflict here between the interests of cis women and trans women.
        But it’s not nearly as relevant as the fascists make it out to be. And most situations can be resolved with nuance, which is something that fascists hate. For example, whether trans athletes are better at sports is only relevant when it’s about prize money. We don’t need to be bullying kids for wanting to belong into a friend group.
        And you’ll find plenty trans athletes that are simply less athletic than their cis counterparts, too. I’ll gladly serve as living proof that folks with a penis in their pants can be less athletic than folks with a vagina. That’s where the real source of conflict comes from, that women’s sports is a pretty arbitrary line to draw for opening up a second league. I do think women’s sports still has merit, because again, nuance. But I really don’t think that it’s worth ruining the lives of trans women.

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          Nice he’s great.

          I agree with your second point. I think civilized literate people have to have the nuanced discussion, and I agree the rest is just a hatred playbook.

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            I too recommend John Oliver’s explanation, it really clearly shows how little those few trans people matter to sports in general and how much sports matters to those specific trans individuals.

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          There is a conflict here between the interests of SOME cis women and trans women. You only need look to women’s rugby or roller derby, 2 sports both very decidedly on one far end of the sports physicality spectrum, to see how little conflict is actually necessary.

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    I don’t think people here understand this yet: he doesn’t care. He won’t abide by any court rulings and there’s no one to make him do it. Your system was always broken, and your rights are just a gentleman’s agreement. Now you ran out of gentlemen.

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      My 6th grade teacher included the judiciary’s lack of ability to enforce their rulings as part of our lesson on checks and balances. That feels like foreshadowing now.

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      Yeah, in spite of Trump literally being a felon while also being president, people still can’t shake the idea that he’s somehow forced to follow the law. He’s actively ignoring a bunch of judicial orders, but people keep celebrating whenever another is added to the pile. We’re simply unable to understand that when Trump - or any rich person for that matter - gets a sentence that “makes them” do something, they can just… not. And nothing bad will happen to them.

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        Has he paid any of the money he was supposed for the slander/libel/ breaking new York laws or whatever? Or has it just been reduced to nothing.

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          I’m not sure, but I’d be surprised if he didn’t use his power as president to dodge it somehow. Or he just ignored it - who’s going to actually come after him over it anyway?

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      Yeah but that’s not exclusive to our system, that’s society in general.

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    Janet Mills and the Judge will soon be accused of being MS13 and sent to El Salvador. Let’s see her tattoos.

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        The US Marshals are under control of the Executive Branch.

        The US Marshals are not friendly or beholden to the courts.

        US Judges have the authority to deputize as they need to see judicial orders carried out. The Supreme Court has its own - the Marshal of the Supreme Court.

        The US Marshals are basically security escorts for high risk assets, they won’t be making arrests anytime soon.

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        I give it about 24 months. He’ll get comfortable and make some stupid decision that ruins the money of some rich group and they’ll oust him. It sucks for everyone, but they’re too dumb not to eat themselves.

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    Wouldn’t get to smug about it yet, poor woman will probably be in a reform camp by the end of the year.

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      Yup. He said he basically said “Good, I look forward to it. It’ll be an easy win.”