• amaze@sh.itjust.works
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    1 year ago

    Yeah I’m sure that does suck and that is a bad way to handle things. At the same time I don’t necessarily know what the best way to handle things are. Speaking personally, I wouldn’t have any issue with a trans women using the men’s bathroom, but really what I see as being a solution that satisfies everyone is making some sort of intersex/intergender bathroom that just anyone can use completely regardless. Obviously its not like that can happen over night, but if you’re in a first world country like me then its really not so much to expect society to adapt to over time. It’s something most large businesses could start adopting over night. Imagine if there were some sort of government subsidy or something to help with the financial side of making that happen, could make it just a little bit faster and easier to happen. Regardless though, I’m not a cis or trans women so I don’t have a personal take on this I can’t personally understand either side of the argument, I just don’t think that one side OR the other deserves to go unheard and not listened to. As to what to do immediately to help everyone, I really don’t know.

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      I mean. Yeah: I know transwomen (and men). When you’ve lived all your life as a cis person this shit is kind of a mind fuck. I never realized how lucky I am for my body and mindset to just fundamentally make sense to me. Until it got more visibility I had no reason to even consider that viewpoint and even now it is still foreign.

      Just talk to people. Getting to know the human behind everything so that trans folks aren’t just abstractions will definitely make you empathetic. I’m lucky enough to live somewhere fairly progressive where trans folks can let themselves happen whether they “pass” or not. By and large they just want to live and not have to be othered all the time.

      I’m also willing to bet the lady who called you a transphobe is just sick of seeing bad faith arguments trickle down. Being trans in our society is massively anxiety provoking for reasons you’d expect. Hearing those same arguments that have been weaponized in other contexts (even if the person currently saying them is not necessarily a raging asshole) is triggering because of how blurry that line can get

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        When you’ve lived all your life as a cis person this shit is kind of a mind fuck. I never realized how lucky I am for my body and mindset to just fundamentally make sense to me. Until it got more visibility I had no reason to even consider that viewpoint and even now it is still foreign.

        It’s interesting to try and imagine what it’s like, as a cis person. I can get pretty bad anxiety moments, and I imagine it’s just like that 24/7, and that’s horrifying. What I can’t imagine is withholding relief from someone going through that.

        Maybe my perception is off and it feels different, but it’s mental anguish of some kind, and I can empathize with that. It’s probably much worse anguish than what I’ve experienced, but I can wrap my head around the idea at least. And yeah it makes me feel lucky – I can’t imagine what it would be like if the bad anxiety I got was also politically weaponized so half the country hated me.