• givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    Weeks at best, possibly months. And that’s still best case.

    This ain’t even the big crash yet.

    That happens when Trump finally caves and removes his tarrifs, and everyone else just shrugs and leaves theirs on.

    It’s obvious as fuck, but so was what happened last week. We’ll see a small bounce as he announces his are being removed, then shit gets real

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      Not that these are normal economic times, but I read that when the 2 and 10 year treasury bills become inverted and then go back to normal there’s about 7 months before a recession hits. This trend has been true for the last 50 years. If this holds up, the recession will be here around August, but we know donny will bring it beautifully and ahead of schedule. The best recession, probably ever.

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          i mean sure, as long as you were making more than $120k and were located in an area with low cost of living

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            23 hours ago

            The Biden economy was actually pretty good, you whiners basically handed the election to Trump

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              22 hours ago

              i want to make it abundantly clear. rebublicans are horrible terrible no good very bad fascists. but one of the goals of the left needed to be convincing the democrats that being republicans circa 2006 wasn’t doing any of us any favors. the inflation of the post covid lockdowns era was similar in nature to the economic recovery of the post recession era: it wasn’t reaching everyone everywhere. that’s what bernie sanders was talking about when he said a democratic party that turned its back on the working class had the working class turn its back on them.

              it’s not whining to say that neoliberal economic policies don’t benefit everyone everywhere equally. biden obsessed with traditional economic indicators, meanwhile people’s paychecks were not keeping pace with the increasing cost of living that was resulting from unchecked systemic greed. the minimum wage needed to go up. the healthcare system needed to be adjusted again. overall the desperately poor needed to be given assistance to not be desperately poor.

              i would argue this desperation, and the democrats refusal to listen to that they needed to apply consequences to fascism and engage more with economic populism was what handed trump the election. telling people who are desperate to shut the fuck up, everything is going great, actually, is incredibly tone deaf. and to reiterate: the MAGAts are embarrassingly unaware of who and what they just voted for and that things are getting worse now because in the race between bad and worse they chose worse. being desperate is no excuse for voting for trump. but the democrats also have no excuse for doing so little to provide for the little guys. Kamala started out strong promising people housing assistance, but stopped emphasizing that down the stretch as she courted corporate donor money.

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                  21 hours ago

                  Except for the part where not really. CPI kept going up until it outpaced CoL adjustments. Not to mention for minimum wage earners, their paychecks have been stuck at $7.25 since 2009. From 2020 to 2022, the united states dropped 5 spots in Human Development index, and when you adjust for income inequality are doing even worse. 64% of US adults are delaying medical care because they can’t afford their next treatment because of pre-existing medical debt.

                  This system of focusing entirely on traditional economic indicators and ignoring the growing chasm between the impoverished in this country, the vanishing middle class, and the wealthy is weird. It’s not normal. It’s not okay.

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          19 hours ago

          I sold all my stocks and switched to bonds in my 401k in February. Fidelity then started messaging me that I was too conservative and needed to mix in stocks since I wasn’t gonna retire any time soon, as if I’m ever gonna be able to retire. Last Friday when it went down 5% or whatever, I was up .5%.

          I missed the 2008 crash cause i didnt have any money. I was too slow to react to covid. I’ll try to buy back in when it’s on the other side of the bottom. In the meantime, I’m saving up for 8 months worth of income.

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      1 day ago

      They are not going to leave their tariffs on, that would defeat the point of retaliation