• Boomer Humor Doomergod@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    Futures markets, which are a way for traders to move stocks when the major exchanges are closed

    When are we going to call this the gambling addiction it is?

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      It’s actually the stock market that’s ridiculous for closing at all. It causes big problems like gaps in trading prices where you can easily miss the stop price.

      It’s 99% automated and we still follow the work schedule of New York for no reason

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        16 hours ago

        What will be extremely funny is if the market drops so fast that the ‘circuit breakers’ get triggered.

        Basically, the SP500, the DJIA… most modern exhanges have rulesets that say if a particular stock… or entire market… drop too much, too fast, trading on them is then just ended, for the rest of the day… I think there are some theoretical scenarios where the trading pauses can last more than a day.

        If that manages to happen… Trump will have literally broken the markets.

        Seeing as I don’t have a 401k: This would be extremely funny.

        Even if the markets don’t crash that fast…

        We are looking like we will have such massive drops in so many stocks over… the past few months, and likely next week…

        Well… a lot of companies … finance a lot of their operations with debt. (EDIT: In particular, leveraged buyouts, ie, buying another company, with a loan) Debt based on their shares as collateral. So… when your stock goes down enough… now the lenders want … more stocks, more money, a higher interest rate, whatever is built in to their exact contracts.

        Basically, we’re probably gonna start to see a bunch of people and companies get margin called.

        And that will further intensify panic and general chaos.

        (Elon Musk in particular is extremely likely to be utterly fucked by this kind of scenario)

        EDIT: Whoah BOY its monday now, update time!

        https://seekingalpha.com/news/4429010-asia-stocks-panic-selling-tariffs-circuit-breakers

        Multiple Asian markets blew out their circuit breakers and halted trading.

        Japan, SK, Taiwan at least had this happen.

        US and EU markets, as far as I can tell, are dropping/dropped hard, but have not yet hit any circuit breaket halts.

        The SP500 did momentarily enter Bear Market territory, which is defined as a 20% drop from the last high… which was in mid February.

        So uh yeah, welcome to Great Depression 2.0 everyone!

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          17 hours ago

          Didn’t Ryan Cohen trigger it when he rug-pulled BBBY? I diamond-handed it like a good little bitch, but I broke even at least.

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            16 hours ago

            I am not a degenerate memestock/crypto gambler so I didn’t follow any of this…

            https://www.forbes.com/sites/qai/2022/08/18/why-do-stocks-get-halted-bbby-stock-is-a-modern-example/

            But yes, apparently this did actually happen, circuit breakers got triggered on BBBY when Cohen did some fuckery a few years back.

            But on this blessed day… we are all meme stocks.

            praise be to the godking and his delicate, small, guiding hands

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                16 hours ago

                I just said I’m not one, your finances are between you and your… fund manager, god, youtube financial advisor, whoever, I have no idea.

                Unless of course you’d be willing to share some of those finances with an overeducated, now crippled from a brutal physical assault and mugging, living off of SSDI, potentially over opinionated and snarky nerd.

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          20 hours ago

          funny is if the market drops so fast that the ‘circuit breakers’ get triggered.

          One of them already popped. I think it was the Nikkei.

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          They need more time to commit crime. The trading day was not long enough for all the crime they were trying to fit into it.