Law enforcement officers have a duty of care. If they execute a no knock warrant at an address that is no longer valid and get shot in the process it is likely there would be no criminal culpability for the homeowner if it’s in a castle doctrine state.
If there was, I didn’t see it but as the Executive will find out if there was, it’s not up to them, it’s up to the Judicial.
The person currently occupying the White House is not a king. Much as he might like to believe otherwise.
I’m a law abiding citizen of the United States. If someone breaks into my home have every reason to believe they’re hostile and won’t hesitate to use deadly force to protect myself and my family.
They’re right, but only in a very theoretical sense. As in, it’s true that you can legally shoot at officers who don’t identify themselves in self-defense, but whether that’s actually how things work in court is an entirely other matter.
I didn’t realize I was giving legal advice. I was pointing out their duty of care based on the training and education I received while pursuing a bachelors degree for law enforcement.
Was there something specific you’re taking issue with or did you just want to snark?
Breonna’s BF got the charges dropped after shooting those cops in their apartment.
Of course, the police harassed him for years during and after the case was decided. They also tried to get Breonna’s ex (the guy they were looking for) to lie about hiding at her apartment sometimes, luckily, he didn’t take the cushy plea deal they dangled to implicate Breonna and her BF.
it wouldn’t matter. we’re not far from (in both directions really) the state doing Philly level bombings of entire blocks to get at the people they claim are the bad guys.
Just as there is no for cops murdering pretty much anyone for anything on the clock. “Standing your ground” to these bastards is plain playing with fire. If you’re not perfectly white and very lucky, you’ll be just signing your own death warrant.
Law enforcement officers have a duty of care. If they execute a no knock warrant at an address that is no longer valid and get shot in the process it is likely there would be no criminal culpability for the homeowner if it’s in a castle doctrine state.
Wasn’t there an executive order issued today that seemed to imply that wouldn’t matter?
If there was, I didn’t see it but as the Executive will find out if there was, it’s not up to them, it’s up to the Judicial.
The person currently occupying the White House is not a king. Much as he might like to believe otherwise.
I’m a law abiding citizen of the United States. If someone breaks into my home have every reason to believe they’re hostile and won’t hesitate to use deadly force to protect myself and my family.
Even if be were called “King” rather than “President”, the Constitution is still a thing. He can call himself whatever, really.
Funny thing is, many citizens of the US seem to have less rights and priviledges than subjects of the UK.
Does lemmy have a sub for badlegaladvice? This comment feels like a prime candidate :)
They’re right, but only in a very theoretical sense. As in, it’s true that you can legally shoot at officers who don’t identify themselves in self-defense, but whether that’s actually how things work in court is an entirely other matter.
https://www.npr.org/2023/05/10/1175268778/minneapolis-police-officer-felony-assault-black-man-george-floyd
https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/08/us/kenneth-walker-breonna-taylor-dismissed-charges/index.html
I didn’t realize I was giving legal advice. I was pointing out their duty of care based on the training and education I received while pursuing a bachelors degree for law enforcement.
Was there something specific you’re taking issue with or did you just want to snark?
Breonna’s BF got the charges dropped after shooting those cops in their apartment.
Of course, the police harassed him for years during and after the case was decided. They also tried to get Breonna’s ex (the guy they were looking for) to lie about hiding at her apartment sometimes, luckily, he didn’t take the cushy plea deal they dangled to implicate Breonna and her BF.
He did and I’d say that was emblematic of what’s happening now on a smaller scale.
The charges were dropped in that case because the Judicial system is still hanging on on the US.
Meanwhile, the police, part of the broken Executive, harassed and targeted him when they were the ones who violated their duty of care.
Meanwhile the Legislative is off in the corner eating paint chips or some bullshit.
it wouldn’t matter. we’re not far from (in both directions really) the state doing Philly level bombings of entire blocks to get at the people they claim are the bad guys.
Just as there is no for cops murdering pretty much anyone for anything on the clock. “Standing your ground” to these bastards is plain playing with fire. If you’re not perfectly white and very lucky, you’ll be just signing your own death warrant.