I’m a trans transhumanist and agree. Though actually iirc there is evidence of animals experiencing some of this stuff even if they often lack the sociocognitotechnological structures to act upon it.
But my opinion is that “nature” (as much as that is even coherent as a concept which is questionable imo, youd really want to be going into specific systems) itself is fundamentally coercive.
I consider “nature” itself to be transphobic in structure (even if it is not sentient or has intent, once you can criticise systems for their construction why not criticise systems that are not human created such as biophysical systems nya). That is, the very construction of major parts of my biology - along also with social systems which have a major component - deprive me of autonomy and self determination. For me, as a trans enby who wants and has obtained hrt, then, I have used technological means to seize my agency ^.^. I’m not just talking abojt trans stuff here but yeah :p
Imo we must tear down this idea that “nature” is something just or good at all or any sort of model for how things should be. Thats not to aay engage in ecological destruction which is a different issue (I won’t go into that now but “don’t accept nature as it exists and be willing to radically alter or overthrow its tyranny” is not the same as “burn down all the forests/release CO2 and mindlessly destroy all the complex and interesting ecosystems that exist and that we also currently need for agriculture, just for short term profits, often even when better options exist”).
On the other hand, I do appreciate the gesture of support and solidarity for what it is. Even if philosophically I consider it incorrect.
I was agreeing with you and stating that the original group doing the “natural” thing were philosophically incorrect but I still appreciate the gesture of their support :p
I’m a trans transhumanist and agree. Though actually iirc there is evidence of animals experiencing some of this stuff even if they often lack the sociocognitotechnological structures to act upon it.
But my opinion is that “nature” (as much as that is even coherent as a concept which is questionable imo, youd really want to be going into specific systems) itself is fundamentally coercive.
I consider “nature” itself to be transphobic in structure (even if it is not sentient or has intent, once you can criticise systems for their construction why not criticise systems that are not human created such as biophysical systems nya). That is, the very construction of major parts of my biology - along also with social systems which have a major component - deprive me of autonomy and self determination. For me, as a trans enby who wants and has obtained hrt, then, I have used technological means to seize my agency ^.^. I’m not just talking abojt trans stuff here but yeah :p
Imo we must tear down this idea that “nature” is something just or good at all or any sort of model for how things should be. Thats not to aay engage in ecological destruction which is a different issue (I won’t go into that now but “don’t accept nature as it exists and be willing to radically alter or overthrow its tyranny” is not the same as “burn down all the forests/release CO2 and mindlessly destroy all the complex and interesting ecosystems that exist and that we also currently need for agriculture, just for short term profits, often even when better options exist”).
On the other hand, I do appreciate the gesture of support and solidarity for what it is. Even if philosophically I consider it incorrect.
What part of my argument do you find philosophically incorrect?
I was agreeing with you and stating that the original group doing the “natural” thing were philosophically incorrect but I still appreciate the gesture of their support :p