• lennivelkant@discuss.tchncs.de
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    3 days ago

    That’s not what I was asking. Would Cool Water prefer Warm Pepsi or Hammers to have the plurality?

    Because the whole point of my explanation of the Spoiler Effect is this: If the Cool Water party wins over more Warm Pepsi voters than Hammer voters (which it probably would), it may end up splitting the Pepsi vote to the point that the Hammers win.

    Unless you can be sure that Cool Water would take the plurality, you’d risk smashing your own face to spite Pepsi.

    By all means, do the work to make Cool Water popular and gain support, but don’t ignore the reality of strategic voting. It’s fucked up, it’s ideologically unpalatable, but it’s pragmatic.

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      3 days ago

      That’s not what I was asking. Would Cool Water prefer Warm Pepsi or Hammers to have the plurality?

      This is just “drink your warm pepsi or you get the hammer” phrased as a question.

      Because the whole point of my explanation

      The only point of your condescending centrist-splaining is to gloat that your shitty wing of the party is taking advantage of a situation in which the only alternative to their constant betrayal is worse than they are.

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        12 hours ago

        I’m not a centrist, nor a neoliberal, nor whatever else you may associate with the Democrats. I don’t even live in the US, and where I do live, I vote left. But that only works because we have a representative democracy, where my vote counts even if it’s not a plurality vote.

        So please spare me your moral grandstanding and deflection and consider what I’m actually talking about instead.

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          11 hours ago

          So you have no clue what it’s like to be in a country where one party is fascist and the only other viable party takes advantage of that to not represent you.