• brown567@sh.itjust.works
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    Pretty sure he’s doing tariffs specifically because they aren’t a tax. They aren’t collected by the IRS, they’re collected by Customs and Border Protection, which is a division of the Dept. of Homeland Security (just like ICE). And because the head of the DHS is such a loyal stooge, whatever god-king shitstain says goes

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    8 hours ago

    So sick of conservatives breaking shit like children and then demanding liberals clean it up.

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    The convoluted hill these morons made for themselves has actually been really satisfying. I hate these people and it’s good to know that it’s nothing but a total fucking mess inside their dumb little heads

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      I understand that this is sarcasm.

      But you just watched Democrats hand over their best leverage by opting not to shut down Donald’s government and voting with Republicans, so, they’re not entirely wrong. We don’t have legitimate opposition. We have a minority party performatively putting up a false pretense at opposition, sitting back, and watching their stock portfolios soar.

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        by opting not to shut down Donald’s government and voting with Republicans

        What are you talking about? Are you talking about a specific bill? Which one? All Dems voted against the ‘huge hideous bill’ (budget bill). Dems don’t have the power/votes to ‘shut down Donald’s government’.

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          Pay attention.

          Can’t pass a regressive tax bill if the government shuts down.

          Democrats aren’t powerless. They’re complicit. The BBB was only possible because they made it possible.

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            Ok. You said “But you just watched”, so I thought you were talking about the most recent catastrophic legislation, which is why I asked which bill you were talking about. Schumer’s a cowardly piece of shit and could have used the only chance dems had or will have, because the other cowardly pieces of shit would have followed his lead and voted against it if he would have.

  • This is fine🔥🐶☕🔥@lemmy.worldOP
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    Link to the replies to the removed comment:

    https://web.archive.org/web/20250713072842/https://old.reddit.com/r/Conservative/comments/1ly12mh/trump_announces_30_tariffs_on_mexico_eu_starting/n2qg7u1/?context=3


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    Post Title: Trump announces 30% tariffs on Mexico, EU starting August 1st

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    agk927 Moderate Conservative -189 points 17 hours ago

    It’ll make us some money. I see no issue here

    akbuilderthrowaway Heinlein 415 points 16 hours ago

    … you do realize Americans pay the tax, right? This is a consumption tax on American for foreign goods. Other nations are not paying this tax. You are. This is a tax on Americans.

    agk927 Moderate Conservative -280 points 16 hours ago

    He wouldn’t do it if it hurt us. Keep listening to the misinformation. There’s 2 sides to every story

    akbuilderthrowaway Heinlein 321 points 16 hours ago

    Misinformation? Dude. Seriously. Open your fucking eyes. Importers aren’t going to eat 25+% taxes out of the goodness of their hearts. It’s going to get passed on to consumers.

    I can call a spade a spade. Trump’s tariff policy is awful. You can’t, on one hand, spout out rhetoric about lowering taxes and then pull shit like this.

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      i work for an importer. My family are all college educated. I still have to explain this to people who have business degrees who should know better. The single most important thing I do at work is make sure the taxes and tariffs are paid before the shipping container gets released from the ship.

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          not the same person but i work in TLSC - variously, yes, in general people are doing feast and famine to import when tariffs get paused, and don’t when they’re not

          • ℍ𝕂-𝟞𝟝@sopuli.xyz
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            Is it possible that the will they won’t they tariff policy is actually increasing imports, since companies now have to hold more inventory to cover for it?

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              Depends, but generally what people do is “nearshoring” or “friendshoring” where they send things through a different country that has lower rates - i.e. if you can ship it directly from India but it costs too much on tarrifs, ship it from India to Mexico and drive it over the border to get a lower rate.

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      What could they realistically do, when Trump controls all branches of government from Congress to the Supreme Court? It can be argued that they should have shut down his government in March, when they had the chance to reject the spending bill - but what can they do now?