• GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml
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      2 years ago

      It’s baffling how many U.S problems can be traced back to car-oriented development.

      Here in Sweden, dedicated school buses are uncommon - getting to school is usually a matter of walking when young, and then using the common public transportation when older, or biking, or a mix of those two.

      Here’s how I got to school while growing up:

      • Years 1 -6: school 0.4 km away, walked or biked
      • Years 7-9: school 2 km away, biked or took the bus
      • Years 10-12: school 9.1 km away, took the bus to school

      Note that this was one of the most car-oriented cities in Sweden of about 100k people, meaning that this experience is probably unusually bad for Sweden.

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        I won’t argue that the US is exceedingly car-focused, but that’s partly because distances travelled are greater. When I was a kid, my elementary school was 2.6 miles (4.18 km) from my house, and many classmates would have been even further. I had classmates who had a 45 minute bus ride (time stretched by making multiple stops obviously). While I’m sure 5 year olds can bike 2.6 miles, it’s probably not ideal and certainly not ideal in snow/sub-zero (Fahrenheit) temps. Much of the US is just very spread out.

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      When I was at school, the bus was a charter from the company that ran the local public bus fleet. Every other time it was running public routes or just part of that companies reserve.

      But this was in the UK, where dedicated school buses are exceptional.

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        Yeah you were lucky. I had to take public transport for the number 93 bus. Memories of queuing in the rain.

        On the plus side, the bus was filled with pretty Japanese students going from their Hall of Residence to University.

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      In the school district that I live in (and where my kids attend school), elementary school starts earliest and middle/high school both start at roughly the same time.

      I’ve found that this works really well since my youngest wakes up and is ready to go earliest anyways, I don’t have to adjust my schedule because they’re out of the house before I have to get to work and I would need after school care regardless. My older kids can more or less fend for themselves before school so I don’t need to worry about them while I get to work before they leave.

      If elementary school started at 9 like high school and middle school I’d have to organize care for my youngest both before and after school since I’d be working at both times.

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      And now imagine if instead of making new schools in places where everybody needs to be driven there either by car or by bus we build them so the majority would walk or bike as it is the more convient option. Other countries like Japan can imagine. Turns out it’s actually better to walk/bike to school even who knew!

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        The problem is you’d have to build not just schools, but entire neighborhoods so they are walkable + tunnels under any larger roads between them, or maybe guarded crossings would do here and there. While it could certainly be done, the majority of the US is built to be car centric from the ground up.

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      2 years ago

      Thank you for the insight! Love reading comments that really get to the heart of an issue without all the emotional crap.

      Your comment for example, I had never thought along those lines. Not an easy problem.