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      11 months ago

      “We want to do it peacefully, but if you resist we’ll do it violently. This makes it not imperialism.”

      Do you even listen to yourself?

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          It’s literally what you said, dumbass. You said if Taiwan declares independence China will have no choice but to invade.

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            I did not use the word “invade”

            Let me clarify; China will cut off trade and freedom of movement, begin blockading the straight, shut down banking and communications, etc. I doubt they’d land boots on the ground and they certainly wouldn’t bomb Taiwan.

            At least, not until Taiwan starts using all those shiney new weapons with the expectation that they have the full support of the United States. Then there’d be an invasion.

            At the end of the day, you need to choose between war and peace. And it seems Democrats are willing to fuck over asylum seekers for the chance to start another war.

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              At least, not until Taiwan starts using all those shiney new weapons with the expectation that they have the full support of the United States. Then there’d be an invasion.

              “There won’t be an invasion until Taiwan reacts to literal acts of war”

              1. Doubt.

              2. That’s still fucking imperialism, bootlicker.

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                Are America’s sanctions on Cuba and Venezuela acts of war? If you agree that they are then I’ll concede on that point.

                Also you really don’t understand what imperialism is, do you? Imperialism is an economic structure used to extract superprofit from imperialized nations. Annexation and integration are fundamentally different, because China has no plans to turn Taiwan into a labor/resource colony.

                When France colonized Algeria they didn’t declare Algerians to be French and grant them the full rights and privileges of French citizens. Get it?

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                  Are America’s sanctions on Cuba and Venezuela acts of war?

                  Sanctions? No. A blockade? Fuck yes it would be.

                  Also you really don’t understand what imperialism is, do you? Imperialism is an economic structure used to extract superprofit from imperialized nations. Annexation and integration are fundamentally different, because China has no plans to turn Taiwan into a labor/resource colony.

                  Ah, the “White Man’s Burden” argument, classic as far as imperialist bootlicking goes.

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                    Okay, so you won’t admit the embargo is a blockade.

                    Well, why wouldn’t China do the same thing? Treat Taiwan exactly the same as America treats Cuba? That seems likely to me, and actually would be clever from a propaganda standpoint since they could use this to undermine US legitimacy.