• rosymind@leminal.space
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    11 months ago

    I mean, society did fail her but that doesn’t mean she shouldn’t take responsibility for what happened. She left her gun in her purse, unsecured, around a six year old with serious mental health issues. She is absolutely liable. That doesn’t mean that she is the only one to blame, tho

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      11 months ago

      Society has failed most of us, we’re still responsible for our actions. She had an unsecured gun with no lockbox or trigger lock, this is on her.

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        11 months ago

        Oh, I agree. She had a gun and thus a responsibility to keep it out of her kids hands. I read a bit more about it, and apparently she discharged the weapon a short while prior because she believed that her boyfriend was cheating on her. Yikes!

        Doesn’t change that we can’t recognize that this likely stems from many societal problems

        I think the world would be better, if we accept BOTH personal responsibility, and the responsibility that we have to others living in the society we all share. It probably won’t happen any time soon, but I can try to spread the idea

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                11 months ago

                Yep, the US rate of knife crime is more than 7 times higher than the UK, and that is per capita

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                  11 months ago

                  Not sure what point you’re trying to make. Comparisons should be done per capita. Otherwise, it’s useless.

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                    11 months ago

                    Usually morons will point out how much larger our population is than the UK. I was stressing that the measure IS per capita, and it is egregiously worse.

                    I was going out of my way to avoid people missing my point while adding more information, but there’s always someone…

                    I edited my post

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          That kid didn’t have mental health problems. He was just imitating how he watched his hopelessly retarded, selfish, dysfunctional and immature parents act.

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            11 months ago

            I would argue that one path to having mental illness is neglect. It could also be that he was exposed to drugs (or chemicals) in utero (which can also effect brain development).

            There’s a book I can recommend, but it’s a bit controversial.

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        depends on the flavor. white trash vs. rich and pretty? white trash gets same sentence, rich and pretty gets a talk show.

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          11 months ago

          Being an attractive white woman is like playing the game of life in tutorial mode levels of difficult. Like what is the very worst thing that can happen to you, Starbucks gets your special latte pink drink order incorrect?

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        11 months ago

        Race-baiting this situation is such a scummy thing to do. Think before you post.

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          It’s not race baiting, it’s asking a legitimate question.

          It is hard to imagine a judge separating a mother from her child for two years. The foster system isn’t known for improving an at risk child’s mental health.