• theyoyomaster@lemmy.worldOP
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    1 year ago

    Any modern gun can functionally do the exact same thing with a beltloop, stick or just your finger. The difference is that a machine gun is actually a specific and different function from this that does it automatically for you.

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      1 year ago

      So kinda like the same distinction between semi-auto and full-auto? One just does things for you automatically?

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        1 year ago

        Not at all, fully automatic is it will continue to fire so long as the trigger is held down. It has always been that. With both FRTs and bump stocks you still pull the trigger individually for every single round that is fired. You can do the exact same thing without an FRT or a bump stock and even revolvers can be fan fired.

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        1 year ago

        By saying it applied to something that specifically does not meet the very clear definition of the law? “One function of the trigger” isn’t ambiguous in any way shape or form. They are not legally machine guns under the law regardless of what they can achieve by means other than sustained full automatic fire.

        • 【J】【u】【s】【t】【Z】@lemmy.world
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          1 year ago

          You keep taking like that but in the case of bump stocks that’s exactly what the ATF and all the reviewing courts found.

          If the initial pull of the trigger causes the second one, it’s a machine gun, even if it is just using recoil to bump the trigger back again.

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            1 year ago

            Judges lie all the time to justify trampling on the second amendment. The cases are not settled, the ban has been thrown out in two separate circuits already. With Bruen being a specific message to lower courts to actually apply the 2A it is unlikely the ban will survive much longer.